GoRaleigh Bus System, now and the future

Looking forward to that 30 minute all day service on the 305 so I can actually consistently ride the bus to work

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Until Route 15 gets replaced by BRT I wish they could add an extra late night run so I can watch movies later at night. The last bus I can take is at 10:42 but some movies finish after midnight.

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If I wanted to use GoRaleigh, I’m within walking distance of a 15L stop. Then, there would be a transfer to the 15 at Wallyworld on New Bern Avenue. I could use the ZWX from WakeMed to Zebulon, also. But, my patients would really have to wait on me…

Action alert! The Wake Transit Plan is out for 2021 and they are looking for public comment. Review changes proposed and provide feedback here through 2/29/20: http://goforwardnc.org/county/wake-county/get-involved/

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Well New Bern BRT and pre-boarding fare pay should make the system faster.

Something to keep us inspired:

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In reading through the full plan (which can be found here), it looks like they bumped back the 9 Hillsborough route to July 2022 due to the Blue Ridge/Hillsborough grade separation (see p165). Appears several other routes got delayed as well for unrelated reasons. Bummer.

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I did not know about this route! Could definitely be a game changer for going to the capital center. If I lived in Apex it would be a big deal for getting downtown as well.

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If I do bring my bike to work, I’ll take the 305 there and then bike back to Five Points.

The only bad thing is that there’s always a constant stream of traffic on Jones Franklin and crossing Jones Franklin to get to my office from the bus stop sucks (as I’m sure you’re aware of at this point since you cross in the opposite direction haha). That road is going to get widened out to 4 lanes in the near future which won’t help things at all.

(Also if you haven’t seen the 440 widening plans yet, they’re closing that entrance to Capital Center there and moving it further down Jones Franklin - not sure what that means for you accessing your office)

Everywhere, but here. (Sigh)

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Well, they didn’t include the New Bern BRT in their 2023 openings, so I told them to add it.

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‘RDU is in the middle of no where’.

Eh?

  • RDU is a top 10 employment center in the Triangle at over 5,000 people working there daily.
  • RDU hosts over 1 million travelers each month.

‘We can’t afford a connection to RDU’.

/facepalm

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I think his point was really that RDU is in the middle of nowhere considering current rail lines. But most people haven’t thought in those terms in nearly a century, so all that is seen is an airport on the biggest traffic corridor in the region and near the largest employment center in the area.

It’s perhaps not feasible for a rail line to the airport, but when billions are being spent it does feel weird that one of the most potentially utilitarian place in the Triangle (anyone can catch a plane) is a no-go because it was built a few miles over from a 60-year old train line.

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Well, more like 166 years. The NCRR was incorporated in 1854. But, yeah, there probably wasn’t much thinking at the time about railroad interfaces when RDU was moved to where it is now back in 1943.

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RDU was an army air Corp training base given to the local municipalities by the military. That’s why it is where it is.

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Agreed.

The Denver airport is in the middle of nowhere. Literally. So is the one in Kansas City.

RDU is by no means in the middle of nowhere.

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When RDU was built, it was in the middle of nowhere. (Relatively speaking.)

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The curse of a twin/tri cities development paradigm. There’s the dream of building a high-density center in the void space. But, Umstead State Park, Falls Lake, and Jordan Lake kind of get in the way.

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For being between Raleigh and Durham, it really is in the middle of a no man’s land. Especially, with Umstead sitting right between RDU and Raleigh, building a rail line that connects RDU effectively, and is also useful for anything else, is quite different. Urban transit works best when there are a bunch of destinations close together all lined up in a row, not when there is three miles of nothing, and then a destination, and then three more miles of nothing.

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Makes sense, and it’s unfortunate that they didn’t build the airport near Hwy 54 and the old train track.

So modern transit is dictated by a 166 year old path?

The rail line would really benefit the 5,000+ workers at the RDU complex though. There’s a higher percentage of service workers that are the ideal demographic for this form of public transportation. It’s a shame the planners of this new transit plan can’t accommodate a stop there. With a variation of 1.5 to 1.8 billion, what’s another 300M to tag RDU?

I guess we’ll see the line extended to Selma and Mebane before we find a way to get RDU included in the plan? That what the plans seem to indicate. So crazy.

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