The kite shaped lot 2 blocks south of red hat is for the Raleigh Fire Department IIRC.
Put it where the Raleigh Technology Center is currently located? City can offer them space elsewhere?
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Yeah, I definitely don’t love Red Hat because of the Amphitheatre itself but because of the location. I want to be able to eat, drink, and walk to a show. That is an entire experience for me.
And I agree that it would not make a ton of sense to have a new downtown Red Hat and a new music venue at Dix. I would leave that out of Dix completely and focus on other aspects of the park. To me a venue in Dix just would not be that different from what we already have at Walnut Creek and Koka Booth, at least compared to something truly downtown.
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Not many cities have downtown outdoor amphitheaters the size of Red Hat. With how limited size wise our downtown proper is to begin with it just seems like the space can be better utilized by something that doesn’t sit empty for five months out of the year. Any Red Hat replacement in DTR needs to be able to host events year round in some capacity.
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Just a thought, but if you wanted to just have a weekly concert downtown during the summer couldn’t you just put a stage in the parking lot of the Lincoln Theatre. It doesn’t look like anything is gonna get built there anytime soon.
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Now that you mention it I do recall something about that, but I am unable to find a source now.
There’s a big difference in the type of programming and performers that interact with all these various venues.
Red Hat capacity: 5,990
Koka booth: 7,000
Walnut Creek: 20,100
Dreameville in Dix: 40,000 tickets sold (2019)
The amphitheater in Dix would likely be bigger than red hat but not by much according to the master plan. I think it would be crazy cool however if DTR (Dix) could capture most of the events that are currently being sent to Walnut Creek or PNC arena, which was my ideal above. Rebuild red hat DT like an actual mid sized amph, and build a full blown pavilion in Dix. Put a park at Walnut Creek.
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If we build a stadium in South Raleigh do we really need either Red Hat or Walnut Creek or even another one at Dix? I think the new stadium could handle most concerts but you could still do some large field type music festivals at Dix without actually building a amphitheater.
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If the stadium actually gets built with 20k capacity, I agree.
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As jazzed as we all are about DTSouth, it’s not right in downtown. It’s about as far from downtown as Cameron Village is, and it’s not as connected to downtown by a network of pedestrian oriented streets as CV is.
IMO, an Amphiteater in the future Devereux Meadows park would make more sense than all of the previously mentioned options.
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For what it’s worth, CV feels very urban and well connected to downtown, proper. And it’s only going to get more urban with the new developments being announced/built.
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CV has the advantage of more of an urban street network to it, and the fact that DT proper pushes closer to it on the NW side of downtown.
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Really nice project but who pushed for AH in this project?
Construction estimated to start Q4/2020
2 phases: 20 story multifamily, hotel and parking first then 20 story mixed use later
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As long as the recession doesn’t kill it. It’ll be a nice addition.
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Any other pictures? Extra characters
There’s a slideshow of like 7 or 8 more renderings, I was about to screenshot, but the paywall kicked me out.
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Our newest DTR money shot:
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Then add two forty footers behind those two.
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