Police and crime in Raleigh

I said it in another thread, but I’ll repeat it here! If I could designate the extra property taxes I pay as a downtown homeowner, I’d designate it all to improving the downtown sidewalk experience!

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I do think more attention to the sidewalk experience is needed. I feel the DRA is on top of it but a larger look is probably still needed. Good things in progress include those tree planter fillings as well as the trash can “molok” wannabes. (RIP Moloks) I hope these expand in 2025 and trash cans disappear off our sidewalks. There’s also various sidewalk art projects that take place here and there.

These are nice and should continue but I think people have higher expectations. I have a theory as to why downtown Raleigh is nicer at night versus the day (from my perspective) and that’s because when it’s night time, downtown ONLY does dinner/nightlife/fun things. During the day, let’s say during lunch time, you get all kinds of things taking place. On a weekday, if you walk down Wilmington, I might see or hear:

  • Trash trucks making pickups
  • Grease trucks sucking and pumping
  • Delivery trucks delivering packages, beverages, or food
  • Buses rolling on through
  • Police cars policing
  • That alarm sound thing when a car is exiting a parking deck
  • City maintenance folks might be power washing something

My point is that downtown is just noisier and very active during the day and I think, at a subconscious level, people migrate away from those zones. But not so much at night because all this seems to go away.

Take a look at Seaboard’s new “main” street. Do you think they’ll allow those types of things on that street? No way because it breaks the experience of being a place you want to be. This all happens less on Fayetteville Street too which makes it a nicer street to be on. (still needs work but you know what I mean)

My hot take would be that the sidewalk experience needs to be improved in and around GoRaleigh, including Wilmington Street, so that MORE people want to be there. I believe it will help with crime taking that “eyes on the street” approach.

Downtown can’t be micromanaged in terms of deliveries and the presence of maintenance trucks that places like Fenton or North Hills can manage but there are plenty of things we can do to make it better.

Lots of thoughts on this but Wilmington Street is so utility these days and I’d love to see it given a makeover. I think that’ll help with a variety of issues.

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Definitely agree with all of this. But I do also think the sidewalk situation in Glenwood South is… suboptimal. Probably several places at this point that could use quite a bit of investment.

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The problem is that we are not developing our downtown into an 18 hour city. It’s mostly a “long weekend” nighttime and special events city. The core of the city needs to work for its downtown residents, and that should be a priority. Focusing on the sidewalk experience is something that the city can actually do toward that goal.
Bringing this back to crime, having deserted sidewalks in the daytime doesn’t help our crime situations and having too many partiers at night doesn’t help us in our crime reduction efforts either.
While these issues are exacerbated by WFH, it wasn’t much better in most of our downtown pre-pandemic.

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Our media continues to try and paint a negative picture on downtown. This incident happened 10 minutes outside of downtown, but somehow gets “downtown” included in the headline. Annoying

Why not just say South Raleigh?

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When people accept that WRAL is our local version of FOX News and avoid watching them, then maybe our local society will start to improve.

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I’m not sure what the big deal is anyway, assaulting cops became legal as of Monday! A whole bunch of people that attacked and assaulted cops were just forgiven and released from prison. Sounds like WRAL is just behind the times.

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We make sure that as many people as possible have guns, and many of them weapons of war, and then we’re so surprised when people get shot. It’s not the location of the shooting. It’s the guns.

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This was fairly far south of Interstate 40. It is perceived more as being in Garner than being in downtown.

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I can’t believe the GoRaleigh station did this! /s

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I was playing around with Google maps a bit and wanted to see what the distance was from the Capitol to the location of the shooting and it’s nearly as far away as North Hills is to the Capitol.

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Damn that’s crazy, so the recent shooting in North Hills actually happened downtown, too. Wild how comically gigantic downtown is!

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Or as WRAL would say, “north of downtown”

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That shooting at Fenton happened west of downtown too.

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Thank goodness for the east, or we’d be surrounded.

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That’s true. East Raleigh is the safe part of town!

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Aren’t there still wildfires burning west of downtown??

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Let’s all move east for 6 months

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Leave it to the man who doesn’t even live here to give us fake news lol

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lol Foxnews? Have you read any of their opinion columns in the last 2 years?