Source?
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The Census raw data released yesterday.
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Thanks! I shouldāve asked after I was done work for the day lol.
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Itās a bit of a difficult read, but the data is in there if youāre good scavenging for it.
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In 10 years, Wake County has grown to be more populated than the 3 county Raleigh MSA was in 2010.
Raleigh MSA 2010: 1,130,490
Wake County 2020: 1,132,271
Some interesting components of the Triangleās growth in the last 10 years:
- The Triangleās combined metro (CSA) grew 377,451
- Durham-Chapel Hill MSA grew 88,269
- Raleigh MSA grew 289,886
- Wake alone grew 231,278 (over 61% of the Triangleās total growth)
- The Henderson component of the Triangleās CSA shrunk by just over 700 since 2010.
Also interesting from the Census is that county numbers were adjusted upward from initial 2019 estimates. This action actually retro-actively makes Mecklenburg larger than Wake for 2019, but the new 2020 estimates already had Wake jumping Mecklenburg again. What kind of cat and mouse game is the Census playing?
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Well, there you have it folks; this is the center of Raleigh:
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I see the word estimates, so are these the final 2020 Census numbers or just the final 2020 estimates or something else?
From the chatter on City-Data, the best that I can ascertain is that these are the July 1, 2020 Census estimates, and not based on the actual 2020 Census.
and with these estimates being consistently off, I wonder how much we should believe themā¦vs waiting for the census data?
Itās still a mystery how they know the census total by state, but canāt yet reveal how they got to their total. Like my math teachers always said: SHOW YOUR WORK
they have to know, they ought to just tell us the real census numbers vs these āestimatesā
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Yeah, Iām not understanding the need for estimates the same year as a census. We know the estimates were off by 100,000+ from the actual results. Now we are just waiting to see which part of the state was the most off.
Even the official Census isnāt going to be the final word if counties and/or states decide to challenge the numbers. With the pandemic, I am not certain that the Census is going to be any more reliable than the yearly estimates based on each July 1st.
I mean on one hand, yes, we will never have an accurate picture of population of any sizable area. On the other hand, the official census count is still a thing. If nothing else, future estimates will be based off that and not the 2020 estimates. It just seems weird to be releasing numbers from two different datasets weeks apart.
I really donāt mean to come across as ignorant here, butā¦
Does anyone here work with the tech side of statistical methodology?
Has anyone ever thought of a ābetter wayā or a more ātechā driven process?
I am just wondering as I would think that math/science would have a better and faster way of processing and handling the Census process and itās components. Or is this simply a slow government process? I am not disparaging the Fed Gov as I am 100% behind them and there abilities. I just think that they may need a helping hand and it ca be done better. IMO
Generally speaking, one of the problems with the Census is lack of Government trust and knowing in Black and Brown communities.
Many of my friends / extended family didnāt do the Census for various reasons - didnāt see the point, donāt trust the government, conspiracies, etcā¦
Not sure if that percentage is enough to actually make a difference once they use their algorithms though.
I would say that with the state of NY it does. 
I havenāt done a ton of research but I think that had a lot to do with a lot of states just growing and there always being the same number of total representatives (435) for the whole country and with every state that gains one, another loses one.
I could be totally wrong lol
YIKES! They lost two last time around. No clue how any of this works but thatās gotta sting.
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That is something Iāve always been genuinely curious about and donāt understand the reason behind it. Iāve continually heard that the places where the census can help the residents the most, are the same areas where the least amount of participation is found. When you say ābrownā, I assume you mean a population with a history of immigration injustices or persecution. That I understand completely why someone would distrust giving personal info, and personally putting myself in their shoes, I would avoid also. But where does the does the distrust from the āblackā community come from?
I would imagine that poor areas perform roughly the same in census participation, regardless of race. Itās just that Iāve continually heard the same thing in regards to African American communities and the census. Iām curious if there is another reason that Iām ignorant about.