Yeah, I realized they must have updated 2023. Looks like there was an across-the-board upswing to account for an earlier undercount on immigrants.
The entire MSA is up to 1,562,000 (nearly 150k more than the 2020 census).
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Yeah, thatās a 53,000 jump from 2023 when I was expecting it be closer to 30,000.
Does this mean that just the Raleigh MSA jumped Milwaukee? I think that is the next one for Raleigh to pass.
County Population Totals: 2020-2024
So it looks like 2023 was upped by about 13k. So the official estimate is Wake grew by 29,050 for 2024.
Milwaukee is still ahead of us by about 12k.
Milwaukee will fall to Raleigh in the next estimate.
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The 2023 estimates show:
- Raleigh: 1,562,009 (grew by 2.6%, or 39,165)
- Milwaukee: 1,574,452 (grew by 0.4%, or 6,563)
So assuming growth trends even close to that continues, Raleigh should pass Milwaukee to become a top 40 market at the next estimate (and may have passed it already IRL). After that we will set our sights on Providence, but that will take several years because it has a population of 1,700,901
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IRL, weāve most assuredly already passed Milwaukee.
When Iāve played with the numbers, and while the gap with Providence seems large, we could actually pass them by the next Census.
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Hi Street Grid,
Thank you!
Do you have any idea of the 2023 estimate for these two (Cities) vs. MSAās?
Yes, assuming current trends hold, I think Raleigh should pass Providence in five or six years, so like you say, by the next census.
Jacksonville is currently next after that, but it is also growing quickly and it will pass the Hampton Roads area in a year or two.
Fun stuff to look at if your region is growing. I imagine it is a bit of a bummer if you are from one of those places that is getting passed.
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The recent census release that I was pulling from had info on counties and MSAs, not cities.
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Soon enough someone will update Wikipedia pages, and another site I frequent:USA: States, Counties, Cities, Places, Urban Areas & Metropolitan Areas - Population Statistics in Maps and Charts will also update.
Hereās the page on Wake County from that site:
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Donāt worry Mecklenburg is running out of room and Wake County being 50% bigger has lots of room to grow. Wake County will be the most populous county in the state for decades to come.
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Well, the more I thought about it, the more I realized that updated estimates for 2023 likely put Wake over 1.2M with last yearās estimate, and before Mecklenburg also crossed that milestone.
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Wikipedia has been updated.
Wake passed another county, Allegheny (Pittsburgh), PA, and now sits at #37 nationally. This time next year, expect Wake to pass Cuyahoga (Cleveland). Hennepin (Minneapolis) will be the next victim the following year. Mecklenburg will likely be picking off some of the same counties a couple of years behind us.
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I think that this is my 3rd post in a row & Iām at my limit! In any case, over on City-Data thereās quite the topic going on the 2024 county-metro estimates. One participant in particular has put up quite the posts on aspects of our metro growth. Iām carving out some of the data here for your enjoyment.
Net Domestic Migration Growth at least +10K
Charlotte MSA: 117,342
Raleigh MSA: 81,532
Nashville: 71,628
Durham: Did not meet minimum so I donāt have a number. I have to wonder if this is mistake in the reporting? Iāll update if the OP updates. Stay tuned.
International Migration Growth at least +10K
Charlotte MSA: 70,443
Nashville MSA: 37,566
Raleigh MSA: 36,487
Durham MSA: 20,334
Natural Change Births/Deaths 2020-2024 Top 50
Charlotte MSA: 34,638
Raleigh MSA: 30,103
Nashville MSA: 27,257
Durham MSA: No Data (this one doesnāt surprise me given how much smaller the MSA is)
Total Population Growth 2020-2024 Top 100
Charlotte MSA: 223,208
Raleigh MSA: 148,034
Nashville MSA: 136,128
Durham MSA: 31,612
Metro Growth Percentages 2020-2024
Raleigh MSA: 10.5%
Charlotte MSA: 8.4%
Nashville MSA: 6.8%
Durham MSA: 5.4%
Some other NC MSA growth percentages for comparison:
Wilmington MSA: 13.7%
Burlington MSA: 6.7%
Greenville MSA: 5.2%
Winston-Salem MSA: 4.3%
Jacksonville MSA: 4.1%
Asheville MSA: 3.8%
Greensboro MSA: 3.1%
Goldsboro MSA: 2.6%
Rocky Mount MSA: 2.3%
Hickory MSA: 2.1%
Fayetteville MSA: 1.8%
Some thoughts:
- Just Raleighās MSA alone is outgrowing Nashvilleās gigantic MSA area.
- Durhamās growth seems to lean more international migration than anything else.
- Raleighās growth relative to its MSA size over performs comparatively.
- Now that Wilmingtonās MSA includes Brunswick Co., itās pushing visibility to the south coastās growth.
- Raleighās natural growth being so close to Charlotteās is very surprising given how much larger Charlotteās MSA base population is.
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Interesting numbers. Does go to show just how much better the numbers look for combined RDU vs Nashville. But alas they are just so much ācoolerā than us.
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Even Raleigh alone is outgrowing Nashville! I donāt think that many people would suspect that to be true.
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Wilmington has been all the rage recently. I hope they can improve their infrastructure to meet the growth because I feel like it has the worst traffic in NC.
Needs a highway bypass from I-40 to Carolina Beach. Iād also like to see the bus system expand out to Carolina Beach and Wrightsville.
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I havenāt been to Wilmington in several years. When I was younger I liked to go there for the beach. Now when Iām there I end up wanting to be downtown on the river. My ābeachingā days are long over! I donāt want any more early stage skin cancers!!!
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Wilmington proper could use some work - I am not sure who you get a freeway over to the beaches you mention, considering how densely built up the area has become. Traffic even in the āshoulderā or off-season to Wrightsville is awful. But my friend who lives out there says there no longer an off-season for Wrightsville.
Brunswick county also needs road work. They are widening Southport-Supply road, where they can, but goodness traffic around Southport/Oak Island/St James is a beast. I usually get to the island and say put.
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I always dread going to Wilmington for work which usually happens 3 or 4 times a year. I-40 is greatā¦ until you hit the dead stop and crawl when the freeway ends. Donāt get me wrong, I think downtown Wilmington is pretty awesome and always swing by while Iām in town. But the rest of ILM is pretty awful IMO. I canāt even remember the last time I went to a Wilmington area beach, mainly b/c traffic is always so bad getting out there.
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