Raleigh-area Mall / Life-Style Center / RTP Redevelopments

Agreed. There’s almost nothing there that even makes me want to go there, and the traffic is insane. I go to Fenton and North Hills at least once a month.

Unrelated, the Westin in Brier Creek looks close to opening, and they have apartments going up across from it. Not gonna lie, I’ll probably go up there at least once to check out their rooftop bar. It’s better looking than the other essentially airport hotels in that area, but I hope if we get one downtown, that it’s much cooler looking.

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I think I remember seeing it having a March 15+/- opening date

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Just like the Publix across from my work in Durham! What a life-changing week! Lol

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I imagine that if they broke ground this year it would still be 2026 before it was completed and ready for the public. That is about as long as it took the current Fenton phase to build and open.

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Don’t think I’ve seen this one yet. Looks like this thing has already been topped out. Kane certainly, I feel, moves faster than most other developers here in the city.

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Crabtree, as tired as it is, will always remain viable due to its home run location. Also, the Apple Store. As long as they stay there the mall will be in good shape. The sales psf for retailers at Crabtree still remains higher than those of North Hills.

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Daylight savings time started beautifully…but didn’t last long! Started sleeting in NH not long after these pics

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i did a tennis tournament in sacramento back in the 2 thousand teens…they still had a very successful mall if i recall. perhaps a similar economic situation.

Just rode by today. It doesn’t look like it’s going to be a small roundabout. They redid the sidewalk ends for ada sidewalk ramps.

Yeah I noticed that. I couldn’t see how a traffic circle would work there - a 4 way stop on roads that should already be slow (25 mph) should be enough.

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The boardwalk section on the top right is the wrong area haha. I’m very excited for this but very sad because I’m expecting that it will shut down the existing Greenway in this area with no decent detour. I’m hoping for the best. There is a light to cross at Creekside Dr that could serve as a detour, however since that’s in the development area, I’m assuming that will be closed.

I’m interested in seeing the concepts. I know part of it is described in the St. Albans Plan.

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Quick note thats there’s a bunch of what looks like surveying and utilities work going on at the future Boulders Apartments at 819 E Six Forks / Industrial.

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Was supposed to ’ go vertical in early 2023’ with around 341 apartments and around 56 townhomes.
The apartments will be in three connected buildings, shockingly also includes a parking deck and the townhomes include 3-story units and stacked two-over-two units. Check out them donuts…

Also I wonder if we’ll see the area that includes Clouds (behind Wegmans - see bottom pic) get moving this year also? As things pick up along Industrial, if you get these built before the waterfront comes to life and watch those investments zoom zoom…

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This looks like a great project. I could see Industrial Dr. turning into a solid urban street sooner rather than later (well, aside from the giant Costco parking lot). I really hope the Northern BRT ends up going down Six Forks and/or Wake Forest as the bike/ped improvements it’d bring are essential. This whole area is ripe for a continuous urban fabric from RIW to Midtown East to North Hills.

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Hasn’t gotten any sort of site plan to my knowledge, just the rezoning

Southpoint’s infill proposal was rejected by Durham’s planning commission.
https://www.axios.com/local/raleigh/2023/03/15/southpoint-mall-wants-to-add-1300-apartments-durham

’ “I hope this does not come off as we don’t like what you are doing,” commission chair Austin Amandolia said.’ → then how come you voted against it :roll_eyes: :unamused: :face_exhaling:

The idea is to replace the Sears and JCPenney boxes; they’re both on the west side of the mall, on either side of the existing outdoor section. The section facing Fayetteville Rd will be largely untouched. Architect’s site:

Notably, the same architect did the recently opened “UHill” next to south Durham’s prior big mall, South Square.

The mall’s owner also owns Penney, so they can just string that along until whenever.

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Downtown Durham has so many good developments but everywhere else the council seem to be tying themselves in so many knots about equity/gentrification/traffic/general inertia they’re never going to get anything done and in 20 years just see their voter base get gentrified out by market forces anyway with nowhere else in the city to go.

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It looks like they want specific designs before going forward and they want them to include affordable housing. I’m tired of hearing about the need to make affordable housing. Using a quote from a Strong Towns article:

Developers don’t build affordable apartments or unaffordable apartments. They build apartments. Some are, no doubt, nicer than others, but this alone doesn’t make them expensive or inexpensive. That only happens when those apartments are sold or rented. At that point, the price is determined in a transaction that is influenced by market forces, public policy, or both.

source: There’s No Such Thing as Affordable Housing

You know what also makes affordable housing units? Making sure that there is enough supply in the market to not cause everything to be unaffordable.

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Sad. It’s a big miss on Durham’s side. They’ll approve expensive subdivisions but deny this?

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