Have they been drinking with the Livable Raleigh folks?
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When you go that far, it’s easy to just discard the comment/opinion. How do you take any of that seriously?
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i dont know Triangle Towns fate…but they practically have a sidewalk with some greenery that circumnavigates the entire place…maybe ripe for mixed-use development.
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Shopping centers must continue to evolve," Cary Mayor Harold Weinbrecht said during the meeting. If you don’t believe me, look at the one with Big Lots, look at South Hills, look at Cary Towne Mall. They all died. MacGregor [Village]was this close and they almost died, they evolved at the last minute. As you heard from one business owner, they are struggling to survive. They cannot exist in a shopping area that doesn’t evolve"
Hines plans up to 750 multifamily units and 30,000 sq ft commercial space. The buildings would be up to seven stories, a height that council members said is consistent with the nearby WakeMed hospital. https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2025/05/23/waverly-place-cary-rezoning-development-hines.html
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Harold is a good mayor. I read his blog sometimes. Big fan.
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Like gerrymandering? Cary should be Raleigh… Just a rich demographics hideout from the city. Reminds me of South Africa.
Hang on. Cary is 57% white and the per capita income is $65K. Raleigh is 51% white and the per capita income is $52K. Sure, there are differences – the largest minority group in Cary is Asians, not African-Americans – but otherwise Cary’s demographics are similar to Raleigh’s demographics north of 440. Not everyone in Cary is a millionaire.
No sense complaining about the multitude of municipalities in Wake County. Consolidation was never in the cards and certainly isn’t now. About half the county has always resided outside the Raleigh city limits.
Some precincts in north Raleigh might say that actually, they’d prefer to be part of Cary and not have to support DTR.
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I’m a Raleigh native. Grew up in 6 residences within 4 miles of the RIW. Moved to north Raleigh in the early 80’s so I could afford a small house with room for my dogs, a garden and a home studio (I’m a potter). DTR is deep in my roots, and I love it. I would sooner pi$$ on the village of Cary as to give up my Raleigh status. Just my thoughts as a Yimby outside the beltline.
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A hairy potter?
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I understand that. On the other hand, there is only one native North Carolinian on my entire block in north Raleigh, and she’s from down east. Much of north Raleigh is like this.
I’m not suggesting seriously that north Raleigh go to the NC General Assembly and get itself transferred out of Raleigh into Cary (or established as a separate municipality). Even if a majority of citizens wanted to see it happen – and that would be an interesting referendum – the mechanics of allocating Raleigh’s $1.5B+ debt would be horrendous. I simply wanted to point out that if someone sees Cary as demographically objectionable, the same could be said for north Raleigh OTB.
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No. North Raleigh citizens pay taxes. Cary doesn’t have to acknowledge the working class in the area. The median household income in Cary is $113,782.
Everybody pays taxes. Social services are primarily the responsiblity of Wake County, not the municipalities. Cary’s municipal tax rate is only slightly lower than Raleigh’s. The county property tax rate is the same. Cary has a higher percentage of properties paying tax than Raleigh because Cary doesn’t have as many tax-exempt properties – government-owned, educational institutions, etc.
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Weird. There is more to taxes than just social services. Why would you assume that?
If feel we’re off topic. Let’s focus, people.
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Is this still about a life style center?
CARY always got their town name as the abbreviation for Containment Area for Relocated Yankees, but a new one I heard was
Can’t Annex Raleigh Yet
They’d select Oakwood, Mordecai, Boylan Heights, and maybe Cameron Village, leave the rest LOL
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Based on Cary’s recent development decisions, I think they’d choose more densely populated areas of Raleigh to add to their tax base.
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A few years back Cary had a presentation that I feel like woke the council up to the fact that bedroom communities (high ratio of low-density residential to commercial/industrial) that are landlocked (can’t sprawl any more) are doomed to either have very high property taxes, or have to deal with declining services and infrastructure.
We talked about it a bit here.
Anyway that preso really seemed to wake the town council up to the need for denser development, and ever since then, I have seldom seen them turn one down.
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Funny that you mentioned this presentation. It was just referenced in the Reflecting Raleigh presentation today…by the same guy.
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