Raleigh Stadium/Arena/Sports Discussions

Disappointing series against the Lightning, but great season for the Hurricanes. Won their division and won the playoff series against Nashville!

I usually go to a game or two each season. We should absolutely do a group event next season!

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NCSU played Arkansas , ranked # 1 in the nation in Regional Play this weekend . Arkansas won
Friday 21 to 2 . State won Saturday & Sunday 6 to 5 , 3 to 2 & advances to the final 8 teams College World Series . Go Pack !

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Good thing they don’t score on aggregate like soccer! :joy:

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Even though I am not a Wolfpack fan. I have to give them credit. To bounce back after Fridays lost and advance is awesome.

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A lot of chatter lately about a new stadium for NC State baseball. I had forgotten NCSU hired a firm for master planning of all athletic facilities about a year and a half ago - and one of their top priorities was a new baseball stadium - wonder if we’ll hear something new about that soon with this recent success?

Probably too outside the box, but I kinda like the idea of a new stadium over near Western & Avent Ferry to connect between main campus and Centennial and see Misson Valley area continue to be more mixed-use. It’ll probably end up on Westchase next to the football stadium parking lots though.

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I agree it would be better if it was closer to campus. Students do not want to drive to baseball games off campus. Is there any consideration of keeping the current location and upgrading the stadium? One of NC state biggest blunders has been moving basketball away from campus, would hate to see baseball do the same. If it was in the location above, that could be a good way to bring some renovations and new development to that area.

I mean, I get it, but Doak Field is on campus and was renovated in 2004. I know that doesn’t sound that long ago, but maybe more renovations could happen there?

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If Coach Avent has not changed his mind , he wants a complete new stadium built . He likes a lot the Coastal Carolina Stadium @ Myrtle Beach . I think that this is a 10,000 seat stadium . This was his thoughts before covid hit . Arkansas had 11,000 fans @ each game this weekend .

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Miss Stake is draw 12k for this super regional. Ole Miss avg 7k a game. Course, all three of these schools are in much smaller towns or areas, and a lot of the attendees are alumni. But this spring has certainly shown that college ball can be a big draw.
South Crapolina’s on-campus stadium has a great view of the downtown Columbia skyline - such as it is.

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I would love to see a new NCSU Stadium & a lease between The Atlantic League , ALPB , join together . Thru email , I have talked with Associate AD John Portland & John did not say no to this possibility . Quite a few colleges & universities have done this in America with minor league baseball . City of Richmond is in talks with Richmond’s AA Team , St. Paul , Saints has done this with a local university , & others that I can not remember the names & details .

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My NC State Baseball stadium dream idea: since I don’t think they’ll get a new park (I don’t think it’s a good idea anyway), I’d love to see something like what Mississippi State has at Dudy-Noble Stadium with its “left field lounge.”

The Durham Bulls have a similar setup in their left field area.

Lee and Sullivan Halls are aging dormitories. If they were ever slated for replacement, I’d love to see them consolidated and relocated to the area in Lee recreational field just beyond the left field wall. You could have some killer balconies/terraces that overlook the field. Maybe some available for purchase as suites, maybe premium apartments? Just push the recreational field east where the old dorms used to be.

-OR-

Build one of those quasi-public/private student housing towers, charge a premium for the view, and keep Lee and Sullivan. Either way, the LF wall is probably 15’-20’ high, so I’d have a parking pedestal underneath the building that no one could see behind the wall anyway. If you had a walkway that links with the existing walkway along the third base line, you’d have continuous walking access around most of the park.

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I think that you may very well be right because of what covid has done to college sports in 2020 .

Between the open field and Thurman Dr. there is plenty of space to expand. I would take one row of parking away from Thurman, shift the whole field 50-75 ft towards Lee. That would leave lots of space for bigger stands and more concession areas. Then add structured parking behind left field - with wmgadd’s lounge.

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Lee and Sullivan are slated for replacement or some sort of major overhaul at some point. Check the master plan (new buildings are shown as gray): https://projects.ncsu.edu/facilities/files/North_Central_South.pdf

It will be interesting to see how the new master plan (just kicked off) addresses this area and what sort of coordination occurs between athletics and facilities in the planning process. I expect the plan for Lee and Sullivan will change with the newest master plan iteration.

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Oh wow, I hadn’t seen this, thanks for sharing. Maybe with enough pressure from donors/boosters (and winning a national title wouldn’t hurt :wink:) this plan could be tweaked a little to incorporate the new dorms with the Doak. If I were still a student there, I would DEFINITELY pay a premium for a room/suite that overlooked the park. And, if you build in restaurant and retail at the level of the LF wall a la the DBAP left field area (thinking red/white shop plus sports bar), this thing would absolutely crush. Seems like a public/private no-brainer to me.

Curious, when was this plan kicked off? Do you know if there’s a contact within facilities who would be open to hearing suggestions? I’d hope AD Boo Corrigan would be pushing for something like this if there are already plans for something similar!!

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The new master plan efforts started this year and will continue at least into next year. I know that there is a process for feedback particularly from campus partners (ie athletics) as well as from students, faculty, staff, etc. and that feedback gets incorporated into the final product.

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We used to ‘tailgate’ on the 11th floor of Sullivan for NC State baseball games. The current Doak Field is a great location for its size, but I feel like a rebuilding bigger stadium there would be too constrained. Avent Ferry Road (Avent Stadium?) across from Mission Valley would be the best of both worlds - right on campus and also adjacent to a potential high-density mixed-use residential and entertainment district. Also on the BRT line for easy connection to downtown for visitors / and when hosting bigger events.

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I’m trying to imagine where an summer Olympic park could be built in or around Raleigh :thinking:.

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I’m sure all the D-1 sports facilities in colleges throughout the Triangle could handle the load of large-scale crowds from the Olympics (perhaps with the help of temporary bleacher additions), and NCSU’s Spring Hills or Dix Park could be used as a cultural center for a Games.

We’d need major investments in transit, though, so attendees can hop across multiple venues both in the Triangle and to farther-away venues in places like Wilmington. That’s easier said than done, though, since even Los Angeles is struggling to do just that even though they have a lot going for them.

If you just thought 'wait, why Wilmington?', click here.

Just because an Olympic games event is hosted by one city, that doesn’t mean it’s self-contained. Some examples off the top of my head:

  • Washington DC, Miami, and parts of Tennessee and Alabama hosted venues for the 1996 Atlanta games etc.).

  • Hong Kong and Shanghai did the same for Beijing in '08

  • …as well as Scotland and other parts of the UK for some soccer games in London '12

  • Tokyo, this summer, will do the same for soccer and baseball games, spreading out some prelim rounds to other parts of Japan where there’s no room (or too expensive) in other parts of Tokyo.

Many of those offsite venues crop up because a host city can’t properly hold all games in a small region. If the Triangle were to do this, I think we’d struggle to host several soccer and water-related events (sailing, surfing etc.), and would need to push them elsewhere. Naturally, Wilmington or Morehead City would be the easiest places since they’re directly connected by highways and rail.

Maybe you could make the same argument about other parts of the state. General Assembly members in the mountains could push for some events on cycling, BMX etc. to be held in the Appalachians like Asheville, the Great Smoky Mountains etc., as well as the media center to be in Charlotte. And depending on the cost and benefits, who’s to say Norfolk, Richmond, Columbia, Greenville etc. can’t be helpful, either?

But here’s a question for you:

Why bother?

Is it even worth it to think about hosting the Olympics?

Sure, you could fetishize Barcelona and Sydney’s success stories, but most post-Cold War Olympics have not lived up to the hype. They’ve come out over-budget to the point that host cities and countries have gone deep into debt or went bankrupt, been a magnet for corruption and human rights violations, and have generally been seen as more of a money- and prestige-making racket for dictatorships and broadcast companies (read: NBC). Cities like Boston and Oslo had to throw out their hosting bids because so many of their citizens were against it, too, which really makes you wonder whether it’s worth it.

Case in point:

And don’t get me started about Tokyo next month, where the IOC won’t let local and national organizers cancel the Games because of Covid.

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I think hosting a modern Olympics is a terrible idea.

Cities go way into debt for decades on venues that will mostly never be used again. It’s part of what lead to Greece’s debt problems after the Athens Games.

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