Raleigh Stadium/Arena/Sports Discussions

The ONLY reason charlotte usa got s team first is because MLS is a pyramid scheme & Tepper showed up with a blank check…literally.

Raleigh was the preferred market for MLS.

No stadium plan killed us.

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One of the Olympic diving facilities in Paris was built mostly out of timber and looks beautiful inside. It would be interesting to see a facility be built like that locally.

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The Chatham County aquatic center in Savannah has a timber ceiling. I think it’s pretty common for pool facilities because the wood is less likely to be damaged from the chlorine. It’s a beautiful facility.

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Reminds me of one of my favorite pools - the Deerfield Academy natatorium in Massachusetts

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That’s great to hear I would like to her to be more vocal. About MLS and MLB she one of the mayors that can be aggressive about pro-sports in this area we have to protect her at all costs.

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I know she can do it! She has a lot on her plate. I just hope she doesn’t leave and does another term.

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Me Too Y! But I think that this will be her last term Y. I hate this too ! Just My Opinion! She needs more time with her family,

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Now who can be just as great of a replacement as her. I can’t find one. Maybe Sig Hutchinson would be a good one. But he’s great where he’s at. There already a lot of and I have to say airheads that are running for some council seats and don’t need to be in any. We need one vocal about pro-sports right now I can’t find a good candidate. Honestly there is none.

Jonathan Melton would support both baseball and soccer ! He would support both minor league or Major League Baseball .

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This will be MAB’s last term, she is not planning on running again after this (insider knowledge)

Thanks Jake! I will miss her but I’m also happy for her also.

Mmmm… I should clarify, she will not be running again mostly because she (and her team) know her public perception has been abysmal and she would more than likely tank in the next election. I like her, and I think she’s done a good job with decision making as Mayor, but I will be first to admit her public image is awful and she doesn’t ever do herself any favors for likability with the general pop. As much as I support her decisions and experience in governing for our city - I am glad she has already privately decided this will be her last term; if she did run again, essentially whatever zero-experience/identity-politics focused NIMBY nobody would absolutely win the election, and we’d be stuck with an even slower, even less effective City Council for a few more years. I do hope Melton decides to run - IMO he still faces an uphill battle with the NIMBY crowd, but I also think he has the name recognition, the experience, the intellect, and the right attitude to win and move our city forward in the best way he possibly could.

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Maybe the NIMBY/Livable Raleigh crowd really is big, and do we have a chance? We have to retain 4 seats 5 if Melton runs for mayor so a pickup. It seems difficult. We have to get Gen Z engaged.

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Maybe they are the majority since we placed election years in even-numbered years instead of odd that was the worse idea ever. So to some degree it’s our fault.

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There literally has been one even year election.

I’m sure if people under 40 voted in local elections like for city council it would be a sweep for pro growth and progressives, but voting locally is so obscure or at least seems like it is that getting younger crowds out would take a lot of work. I’m 21 and know nothing about when local elections happen, where to go or what I need to do, etc and I’m one of the few people my age who even cares about local level politics. Even then, it’s hard to find out who’s running and where they stand. It’s tricky because these are elections that really the majority of people voting in are retired folks who probably live in nimby neighborhoods and don’t have much else to do besides be involved with their neighborhood’s business.

One is too much, things have changed that Dem Ballot is way to powerful unless they get out of our elections things we might breathe a little.

I would challenge this thought… it seems a LOT of people my age and younger (I am 30) have become extremely anti-development in this city. They see all these “LuXuRy ApArTmeNts” being built while their rent still continues drastically increasing year after year, and they’re getting sick of it and think it’s the fault of all the development why they’re (read: we’re) slowly becoming less and less able to afford to live here. They can’t see the “bigger picture” because their literally livelihoods and shelter are at stake - they can only focus on the day-to-day, and day-to-day: they see new luxury builds continue to be built all while their rent continues to explode. I totally get it, but I just wish they’d seek the deeper truths behind why this is. I also do think the city could do a lot more to, at very least, improve optics - if not flat out improve people’s ability to afford to live here. What that entails, I don’t know unfortunately.

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I’ve actually seen the opposite, although I’m using reddit to gauge my perception. Maybe that platform is mostly 30+ now. Whenever I see a post on how luxury housing is screwing up the market, usually the top post will be based in the reality we know.

https://www.reddit.com/r/raleigh/comments/11x3qj1/wral_luxury_townhome_development_in_raleigh/
https://www.reddit.com/r/raleigh/comments/y1bhrp/hurray_more_luxury_student_housing_on/

Just a couple of posts where, only a few years ago, you’d have people raging against developers in the comments. Now, people even understanding that pretty tight-spaced student housing has a place.

If any of you all haven’t read the book, “How Minds Change” by Dave McRaney, I’d give it a read. It shows how viral these realizations can be when they hit a tipping point. This group went through a lot of effort to change the thoughts of gay marriage in California after Prop 8 unexpectedly failed in 2008. Nowadays, the vast majority of people (at least publicly) are fine with gay people getting married.

I actually think we’re pretty close to more people realizing that all these arguments against “luxury” housing have been arguments in bad faith that have negatively impacted them. Time will tell, but I have heard the word ‘YIMBY’ outside my personal echo chambers more in the last year than I’ve heard in the years up to this point.

yeah… unfortunately, I’m using real people I actually know or know of to gauge my perception :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

But I also have a smaller circle than all of Reddit so I do hope my negative assumptions of “people my age” are just that - negative assumptions.