Raleigh Stadium/Arena/Sports Discussions

He is, but he didn’t say it’s a requirement to begin development. Also, I’d think a vision of what the tax money would be going to would help his chances, no?

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I think this only applies to the public schools. I was able to get beer at Wake Forest last season.

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Would that be because the stadiums are located on State owned property, vs a privately owned stadium (IE private schools or professional teams)?

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Either that or Wake Forest just said screw it we’re selling beer. Could have been a really easy distinction for the reporter to inquire about and report on in the article.

The former Baptist University has been serving beer at sports facilities for several years. Unfortunately most students are under 21, leave at halftime & do not return. Most Deacs students are just making an appearance & back to the tailgate- no matter the opponent or score. Same as when I was a student.

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@JoeZ There are different reasons why some teams are named after states rather than cities, but here are the most common ones.

A lot of teams play in stadiums that are located outside of the cities themselves, which is why they use state or regional names. The Golden State Warriors play in Oakland (although they’re moving back to San Francisco next season, the (Dallas-Ft. Worth) Texas Rangers play in Arlington, the New England Patriots play in Foxborough, and the Tampa Bay Rays play in St. Petersburg. The Angels play in Anaheim and have been known throughout the years as the California Angels, Anaheim Angels, and the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Notably, though, several NFL franchises have moved out to the suburbs but still kept the city name.

All of Minnesota’s big professional sports teams are branded as “Minnesota” so as to not offend the citizens of either of the two Twin Cities, Minneapolis and St. Paul, who are very sensitive about these things. Also, when the Vikings and Twins began playing in the early 1960s, they played in Bloomington, on what is now the site of the Mall of America.

The Colorado Rockies are branded as such in recognition of state taxes that helped pay for Coors Field. I’m sure some other teams must fall into this basketball as well. Interestingly, when the city of Miami paid to fund construction of a new stadium for the Marlins, one condition it imposed was that the team had to change its name from the Miami Marlins to the Florida Marlins.

Some teams do indeed do this in an effort to expand their fan base. I know this was very explicitly the strategy for the Carolina Panthers and Arizona Diamondbacks, and probably for most of the others that aren’t mentioned above.

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Duke or Carolina, probably not because we’d be too busy lining up for it in tents. I can tell you from experience that UNC’s parties are crazier than most people give us credit for -and Duke can easily be peer-pressured into doing it if (and only if) UNC and State do it as well.

The one thing keeping this from happening is probably public school regulations, like @JosABanks said.

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@dtraleigh
Hi Leo, question…
Should the other Raleigh Sports Stadium discussion:
Stadium at the Penmarc Site be combined with this one? Or, as I have always thought, I am just blatantly lazy as my dad always used to say? :thinking::grin::rofl::joy::crazy_face:

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That one is specific to that site while this thread is meant to be about stadiums in general, I guess. Hopefully that thread turns into a construction watch thread right?

It could go either way but I would say we can keep both open as PNC Arena news and national trends are worth following. (in this topic :wink:)

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What are they thinking putting a stadium downtown?? Something called Fenway?

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It doesn’t activate the surrounding area. Just a complete dead zone. :grin:

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@GucciLittlePig & @OakCityDylan
Fenway isn’t actually downtown. Yes, it’s in an urban area, but it’s more than 2 miles from downtown.

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Yeah, it’s in an area called DoBoSo, Downtown Boston South.

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Yeah yeah yeah… and Back Bay isn’t downtown either apparently. It’s all more urban than almost anything in Raleigh :wink:

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I never said it wasn’t urban. I am just pointing out that it’s not downtown. Look, I’ve been to Boston a lot; I get that it’s urban beyond its center. The same dynamic plays out in Chicago, NYC, and other cities. They have dense urban neighborhoods that are not in their downtowns.

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I’ll happily walk 2 miles anywhere around DTR to get to a stadium. Point taken, but I just want a sports arena/stadium I can walk to easily.

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They actually went from the Florida Marlins to the Miami Marlins.

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Yeah, I obviously accidentally transposed the two words in that sentence. Ordinarily I would say that it would be odd if the city demanded that the team remove the city’s name from the team’s name, but the Marlins have been so terrible lately that maybe the city ought to consider it. :laughing:

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When Fenway Park was built in 1912, it was entirely privately financed by then-owner John Taylor. Taylor was probably thinking that this would be a good location for a new stadium, and everybody else was probably thinking that it was the Taylor family’s money, so if they wanted to build a stadium there, more power to them.

Not downtown related, but NC State is soliciting firms to conduct assessment and feasibility studies for master planning for their athletic programs. Specifically mentions Carter-Finley and Doak Baseball.

Biggest things I think State could do at C-F would be full seating except for student sections like UNCCH recently did, and although it’d be a huuuge project, I think some roof canopies would amazing. Like Miami Hard Rock Stadium, but maybe more mid-century architecture to blend in with C-F design. Something along the lines of the old Milton Small designed bookstore canopy.

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