Well, you did say interestingly. I don’t think it’s interesting that the city made that request. I think it would be expected. It would be very interesting if the city asked to take their name out of the team’s name. It would also be odd as you say.
Even so, I just wanted to clarify for everyone.
FWIW, I figured that you transposed them.
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You’d think this would be more common, but Miami is the only instance I can think of where a city successfully leveraged public financing into an apparently permanent change of a team’s brand, at least in a case where the team wasn’t moving to an entirely new market. (Anaheim had some success with this for a while, but the team is now branded as the Los Angeles Angels once again.)
I would have liked to see at least one member of the Raleigh City Council do a little old-fashioned grandstanding over the PNC Arena funding and demand that if the city is going to stump up all this money for stadium renovations, the team ought to change their name to the “Raleigh Hurricanes.” I mean, it wouldn’t have worked in this case, but it might have gotten some politician a little free publicity. But the same thing happened in Charlotte; the team sunk a bunch of money into upgrading Bank of America stadium, and I don’t think anyone even asked whether the team might be willing to change its name to the “Charlotte Panthers” in exchange.
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The Marlins moved from the suburbs to the actual city. Since the city was ponying up the money, they had leverage.
Raleigh made the mistake on the front end by trying to be inclusive of the broader market by not pushing Raleigh. You can bet your bottom dollar that Durham would have insisted on it being the Durham Hurricanes if it were located in their city limits.
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Yeah, I definitely agree that Miami had leverage in that situation; my point was that there are actually few instances of cities successfully doing what Miami did, which I find somewhat surprising. I would have expected more cities to follow Miami’s template.
I think that might have been tougher for the city on the front end because the initial funding for the arena came in part from the state government, and the team ended up playing its first two seasons in Greensboro. But certainly the city could have at least asked for it on this go-around.
There is a reason, though, why all these teams brand themselves as “Carolina,” and when or if discussions to bring an MLB team to Raleigh ever reach any point of tangibility, I’m sure the putative ownership group would prefer, as a first choice, to brand the baseball team as Carolina as well. If a proposed stadium was intended to be located in Raleigh proper, I guess that would be an opportunity to put this idea into practice and use the lure of public money to strong-arm the team into branding itself as “Raleigh” instead.
I was watching the game this weekend from Carter-Finley and thought the same thing - they need canopies or something for those poor folks in that stiffing sun. Bless the faithful who showed up.
I was thinking of retractable sail-like fabric shades that come out on stationary arms. Anything permanent would mean changing the lighting, you could certainly do that but I was being thrift, lol.
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They just need to go back to how it used to be with early season games being night games. Start them at 7 and the problem is solved.
Then again, with TV the way that it is, I suspect we’ll get night games in November when it’s frickin cold outside.
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With the way our climate has been going 
November is now an autumn month. So, it’ll be cool 
and not cold outside… 
I was in the marching band at NCSU, we got the full sun from our section while wearing heavy uniforms. I guess it was just part of the experience for us. 
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Hey Will , Will you check with your friends on any info. concerning State’s feasibility study concerning
baseball ? Thanks my friend !
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Wow it’s like a list of people I support, people I’m against!
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WHEN ITS ALL CAPS THEN ITS VERY IMPORTANT
Seriously tho I’m glad to know who the bums are that need to be voted out. Thanks!
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No Excuses. You can vote early but VOTE!!!
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Notice that a few folks (Sullivan, Stephenson) didn’t reply.
And Cox Cox Cox Cox Cox didn’t respond. (needed 20 characters)
Unless Malik is having similar meetings and visits from the MLS commissioner like Charlotte had back in August. As well as the money being thrown towards this, we are seriously behind the 8-ball.
I think it’s about time we tie a string to this MLS bid and let it go. Unless we can have a situation like in Ohio with competing market teams (They are only 100 miles apart).
https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2019/09/25/panthers-owner-seek-up-to-200m-from-charlotte-for.html?iana=hpmvp_trig_news_headline
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That’s a lot of Cox! 
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New article in the TBJ says Tepper is seeking $110-212M “as part of a 90-day push to secure a stadium and practice headquarters for an MLS club so Tepper can close on his pursuit of an expansion club with league executives.”
I didn’t realize the Panthers were moving to Rock Hill in 2022. It sounds like he wants BofA Stadium to be the MLS home and then build a new multi-purpose stadium in the next 10 years.
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New practice facility and team offices moving to Rock Hill. Panthers still playing in BofA for forseeable future.
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I guess it really comes down to the discussion we were having as a hypothetical a while back. If no MLS (and that’s what it’s looking like), then what is this ask even about?
Are people really on board with spending this type of money for a new stadium for NCFC/Courage? Honest question, because Its constantly unclear if people are just FOR any stadium in general, or if they are under the assumption that this stadium would house an MLS team. (I personally feel that those that believe building this stadium gets Raleigh an MLS franchise just aren’t really following what is going on with MLS.)
And then the next question…
Is Kane REALLY set on spending $1.9 billion in development that would be anchored by a minor league soccer stadium?
It’s just not entirely clear to me what there plans are should MLS be out of the question.
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