Raleigh Union Station and RUSbus Facility / Union West

Question for people who understand construction better than I do (and I’m sorry if this has been established previously on this thread): how do you go vertical with an active bus terminal underneath you? Will they have to randomly close it at points, like when lifting a particularly large object with the crane? Seems like it’d be dangerous to passengers.

I have zero doubt we’re gonna see this thing go vertical, so please don’t read this as me questioning that; I’m more just curious about the logistics.

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I’m pretty sure it’s confirmed that the bus station has to be fully complete before a tower gets built, so we’ll have to see what happens then.

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we have done this multiple times in Charlotte built over an existing building. The Museum apartment tower which is 42 stories was built after the Mint Museum was already open. The shafts for the elevators have to be in place obviously but it is done more than you think. We are also going to building a hotel atop the Carolina Theater renovation and again it is planned to start after the Theater opens. The foundation for the tower is already in the ground at the RUSBUS as are the elevator shafts for the apartment tower I am sure.

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A tower? Not dead, still planned. This tower/this height? Definitely dead.

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That helps, thank you kindly!

my folks did some tta stuff to chapel hill for cheap dental work early 00s. i think there was more desire for tta ridership westward in northern raleigh (spring forest road area) as opposed to dt raleigh?

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No more fence at RusBus, so you can go walk through it and check it out /s

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It’s nice to see that the old facades survived and didn’t “accidentally” fall over during construction.

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Looks like they’re making a “small text change regarding affordability” on the zoning application - on my phone so I can’t easily dig into it

https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-raleigh-wire-service/748/2389?u=oakcityyimby

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I’m curious what folks think about this “either or” way of addressing affordable housing. I don’t know which is better: 1) making 10% of units affordable to 80% AMI for 15 years or 2) donating $40K per 10% of the total units to the general housing fund. What do y’all think?

For me, when I hear 80% AMI, the first thing I think of is early-in-career/new professionals/recent college grads who want live downtown. I don’t necessarily think of long term moderate income earners who may have families. Am I wrong for thinking this way?

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So where do we stand with this? Do we think there is a chance this starts in 2025?

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There is an agenda item in today’s Council meeting that is related to this project. It basically says that the RUS-BUS portion will likely be complete much sooner than construction of the residential tower will begin. The expectation was 2026 for the tower component to start.

Economic conditions cited as the reason. Not terribly surprising.

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At the end of the day, 2026 is only next year.

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FWIW, Charlotte is having the exact same issue (but probably worse) with their new train station. The platform was done in (I believe) 2023. No word on tower construction yet!

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Without double-checking I am pretty sure that 2026 was when the tower developer’s lease payments begin.

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If the next year takes as long as 2025 is feeling already, it’s gonna seem like a decade.

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yeah I was gonna say… if we make it there lmao

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The situation in Charlotte is really a shame. Their existing train station is terrible and inconvenient. Would be such a win for them (and us) to get the downtown station built, even if the larger mixed-use component has to wait.

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