Raleigh Union Station and RUSbus Facility / Union West

The bridge should definitely be axed if the hotel portion is residential now, it doesn’t really serve a purpose anymore.

Besides, that money could potentially go towards achieving some type of semblance to the first designs that we all love so much.

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For balance, if this latest design was proposed for Durham, we’d all be shitting ourselves with jealousy and lamenting how they are getting something that we aren’t. We’d be looking at all of the good things and talking about how forward looking they are because they’re dropping hundreds of housing units over a bus transit station that’s being built next door to their fantastic train station.
We’d be talking about how they are doing this within the context of a burgeoning urban neighborhood replete with even more new housing with more to come on the horizon, a food hall and a community grocer. We’d talk about how they are mixing this within a neighborhood that celebrates the art and queer communities, and has a cool and thriving vintage store, some great independent restaurants, a gourmet chocolatier, and a brewery. We’d be talking about how it’s in the same neighborhood as a dining establishment that allows people to pay what they can and how sensitive they are to to those without privilege. We’d talk about how the location has excellent Walk, Transit, and Bike Scores via walkscore.com, and praising how close it is to a public green space in Nash Square.
just saying…

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What are the chances this area becomes a playground for homeless and those with mental illnesses? What is going to make this different from the goraleigh bus station and Moore square ?

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Can you help me understand what “a playground for the homeless” is? I guess the answer to your question is zero percent since the city has multiple shelters in place. Seems that’s a greater need than a playground.

:nerd_face:

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That area has a lot of homeless people because a lot of their services are on the east side of the square and the park itself is a place for them to sit in the shade. The bus station itself isn’t the main part of it. This has none of that.

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Armchair architect… I’d make the south tower all brick and add a ton of color accents (probably too many but :person_shrugging: )

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I like what you did with the screening of the deck and the “Union” at the top of the taller tower.

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Wrap the parking deck with graffiti, a la Wynwood in Miami, or a shimmer wall type installation that moves in the breeze.

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I think what @dtseabar is trying to say is what are the chances that the homeless population in raleigh turn the warehouse district into the new hangout spot in downtown. I’m at the go raleigh station almost daily and he’s not far off.

From wilmington street to person street around the bus station there are dozens of homeless people wandering or sleeping on the sidewalks and almost ever single one I’ve talked to has said they can’t, for one reason or another, go to the shelters. I always refuse to give them money, buy them cigarettes, or food. Instead, I let them know that they can take bus 21 to the oak city help center on wilmington street for assistance and they just get angry and or aggressive and claim to have been barred from entering ALL of the shelters

Even if there are technically enough beds for the homeless, they’re not sleeping there or getting the help they need… not willingly anyway

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Next iteration will just be a massive parking garage with a bridge to Union Station. Can’t wait

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Totally agree with you that the homeless situation around Moore Square/Taz’s is teetering on the brink of really unpleasant.

But I think the lack of homeless services, shade, and fully public places to sit down/lie down in the Warehouse District makes it a less appealing spot for them.

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Unless I’m mistaken, the homeless services building that provided food and temporary shelter has moved out of downtown, further down Wilmington St.

I feel bad for this church the most, every Sunday morning they arrive for service and have to chase people of their steps, sometimes becoming confrontational.

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very Christ-like! LMAO

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The homeless people not the church members…

wha… no, I know… you said the church members chase homeless people off their steps before church service - it’s just very ironic!

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Did anyone actually expect this not to happen?

It is also private property……

I’m all for Christian charity, but the parishioners need to feel safe walking into the church or after a while you won’t have a flock left to do good works with.

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I am not sure about how this happens in Raleigh, but many shelters in other cities require those who seek help to not drink, not take drugs, and behave by their rules before getting help. I suppose that there will be many who will agree with this approach, but it also leaves many people without help because they have a dependency on these substances, and that needs to be addressed first.
If we have resources and capacity to help the homeless, and there’s still homelessness, then we have to figure out why that’s the case. However, we are often too quick to jump to the conclusion that the homeless themselves are the problem.

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They of course invite them inside for service like everyone else, but they politely ask them to quit sleeping and doing drugs on their entrance steps.

We sometimes walk up to Moore Square early in the morning and catch this happening.