Red Hat Amphitheater and Outdoor Music

Link to the LinkedIn post if the rest of you are interested. Posting responses there are going to resonate more than here.

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Um. The revenue they’ve seen since the introduction of Red Heat Amphitheater SIMPLY DIDN’T EXIST BEFORE (in the higher numbers they see now, at least). What an idiot!

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GO TELL’EM!

You guys are responding to someone on LinkedIn, on the forum, which is literally preaching to the choir (although I bet most of you sing like crap). :poop:

EDIT: BTW, I called the guy a troll and he hasn’t bothered to reply. Typical troll.

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Oh I know, I just also know that my hyperbolic rhetoric probably wouldn’t do much to sway someone in the opposite direction. Would probably just make em double down. So I vent here, because y’all get it.

Also I sing like an angel, thank you very much.

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Janet Cowell the YIMBY we thought she was is against it being downtown.

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Where’d you see that? If true, that’s enough for me to know she definitely won’t be getting my vote. Would just like to see a source with a quote.

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Their stances are always determined by their constituents beliefs. She wants to get reelected so it’s even more important for her to appeal to her supporters, regardless of her opinion.

She hasn’t even been elected yet!

There’s a blurb from Janet Cowell in the N+O report above (think @pBeez posted) - related to street closure.
There’s also some article back and forth around a Dix music venue in ‘the Valley’ from the master plan as well as some context around where shows might go if Red Hat isn’t an option ( spoiler alert - with Live Nation booking those shows, you might get a couple of them at Koka but more likely they just land in ILM or CLT skipping RAL. :tired_face:)

We need to lean hard into the ‘slip leg’ around the venue with DOT - let’s see some real plans / renders and we need to bang the drum on better pedestrian / bike amenities around Red Hat combined with the parklet creating a better trade-off than the existing…
Turn the pearl clutching into better understanding.

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A Dix Park concert venue is closer to Boylan Heights than Red Hat. It’s hard to believe they want it there.
We need to find which candidates back Red Hat and try to get them elected.

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Oop ok… I forgot she’s running for mayor

I’m sure they protest that too when the time comes.

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She shaky keep in mind if they act this way see what they act when MLB stadium comes here or other large things

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N&O article sights her Opioion. We really don’t have a good mayor choice.

That terrible that means she’ll be a slave to them throughout her run I talked about this on Reddit go look at what I said about constituents.

Are we sure this decision is between red hat closing south street and moving to Dix or if the actual decision is to kill a downtown (including Dix) venue?

I’m sure there are some developers that are proposing building a new venue that would love to have less competition (even if the capacities are a little different, after all it’s not like dpac gets smaller bands because it’s capacity is only 2,700 while red hat is 5,900).

There is absolutely no chance they take RHA out of downtown. I’m not even buying this is seriously being considered.

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We said the same thing about Trump and then he somehow got elected. Believe the ridiculous worst can happen, because it will.

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@Roganberry You’re correct, wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a unanimous yes vote.

No opposition showed up on Saturday, or they were quiet/invisible. All “concerns” have been fully addressed. There’s almost no argument for voting no on this one from the council’s perspective. They project Lenoir to be at 50% vehicular capacity after closing south st, if you needed those numbers, but frankly the closure just isn’t disruptive, and the pedestrian improvements more than make up for it. Lenior is getting a complete makeover too. Can someone post the board with renderings of the sculptural bench and MUP under the train tracks?

The door is also open for tunneling east under RHA in the future given the south st incline from McDowell to Salisbury. Likely would never be a need to justify it, but I like that it stays on the table for future consideration, since that’s what we’d actually do here cost notwithstanding.

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