Red Hat Amphitheater and Outdoor Music

Wait till you’re 41 like me. At my age, I’m far too fragile.

And yeah, nothing against Beethoven. He was great in those 90s movies with the kids.

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@john check it out, his jokes are starting to improve.

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Yes, and I take credit for that. You’re welcome! :wink:

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I recently moshed to Beethoven at 46, so I can relate to you fellas.

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Show your support!!!

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MRHAGTT…Make RHA Great This Time…

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While it might seem like a short-lived purchase, since the date for voting is theoretically in a week and a half, it’s actually more than that.

If it fails, you have a collector’s item where you can tell your grandkids about how downtown used to be almost cool.

And if it passes, you can wear it to every Red Hat show you go to, confusing almost everyone you meet, in the years to come.

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I just love this. I think we should buy extra and hand these out to friends at LR.

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…you have friends at LR? :face_with_raised_eyebrow: :thinking: :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

While I know this is a joke, I’ve got to say as an Oakwood resident that LR members are (mostly) not cartoon villains.

A lot of them are from the generation that helped restore a lot of Raleigh’s historic fabric. They’re usually really nice, well-meaning old liberals whose dream for Raleigh is essentially a bunch of neighborhoods like Boylan Heights and Oakwood, which are lovely places to live. When it doesn’t happen, their instinct is blame it on “unrestricted” growth and “greedy developers.”

So they get snippy at council meetings and the like because they think pro-growth people are developer shills who are going to undo all of their efforts to help Raleigh rediscover its history and urban-ish neighborhoods, not principally because they think it’s going to lower their house prices in Oakwood or things like that.

Obviously, that’s a broad brush, and some of them really are the Karens of our nightmares, but most really are lovely neighbors.

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I actually agree with this. Most people, in their political perceptions, really do mean well. They and their friends have probably been doing very well and, in their bubble of reality, things have been going perfectly fine.

In my bubble of reality, I see friends being pushed 30-60 minutes away due to affordability issues, if not outright leaving the area. If things continue this way, those same people are not going to be good grandparents without extensive travel. That’s how I grew up, and I really do wish I knew my grandparents a bit better.

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Regarding the direction of historic preservation, the statement by the San Francisco mayor at the DNC - “America is not a museum” seems resonant.

I do get the notion of trying to leave a lasting mark behind- trying to pass something from a previous generation, on along to future generations, thereby taking on (for a term anyway) an important role as a caretaker of our history, passing it on intact as a legacy.

But what has been missing is:

(1) Let’s have an honest accounting of what it would cost, in terms of opportunity cost, of doing this with such a broad brush. Do we want to preseve the Joel Lane house, built in the 1790s? Absolutely. Do we want to preserve each and every one of the thousands of 1960s split levels up in North Hills? Heck naw.

(2) We actually aren’t doing a good job of preserving much. Teardowns have continued unabated for decades and while some do seem to lament it, many embrace it and many more have accepted it as something we can’t do anything about.

(3) To some, though, it has nothing to do with actual history; preserving “neighborhood character” means exactly one thing: keeping density down, which in practice usually boils down to one thing: preserving exclusivity.

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Go golly miss Molly No.

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I simply just want to know WHO these folks thinks BUILD things in cities if not the “developers” they believe to be so evil lmao

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Cool new rendering I haven’t seen before, this is the perspective of looking towards the back of the amphitheater where South St. would be closed.

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Way over the top with signage, does it violate the city’s sign ordinance?

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I think that rendering was up in the original ‘Block Party’ post…maybe by GLP ?
One note that I’m recalling from the council meeting presentation on RHA recently, was the intent / comment from Councilor Melton to get the best combo of public amenities from this side of the street closing which SHOULD include reconfiguring the gravel lot pictured in this rendering…
If we’ve gotta close the street, let’s max out public space and keep the parking behind the gate.

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I was there last night and was sizing up the relocation. Losing the shimmer wall will be a bummer they should budget something significant for the crappy looking parking deck that will become the new backdrop

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The problem with the Red Hat is what happens when that sponsorship transfers to a new company? There needs to be a long term strategy on making a change in the future. If it’s just painted, then so be it.

Sponsor deals switch all the time on venues. They will figure out a way to get new signs or paint.

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