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Bless their little hearts.

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Wish Raleigh was this creative https://www.dezeen.com/2024/09/02/nashville-tallest-skyscraper-goettsch-partners/

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719 feet, wow! Can we even imagine… What does drive N’ville’s downtown boom while our growth seems spread over so many nodes? Does N’ville have these nodes too? West End certainly has a lot of growth, but is really just an extension of DTN.

And good to see you again, @Seabrook1383

Wow that is a beautiful building design

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Nashville concentrates a similar population to the Triangle into a metro area with a single core downtown. That downtown is also a major tourism and nightlife destination thanks to being one of the biggest music industry hubs in the world. Plus, while some of its big companies are headquartered in the burbs, it doesn’t have an RTP actively encouraging that kind of development.

Minus the tourism/music bit, pretty similar reasons to Charlotte.

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They also have Doug the Pug living there, which is obviously the main thing.

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Cary!!!

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Well dang…push me over with a feather. I never saw that one coming.

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It’s still a Raleigh suburb

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How is Cary a “former” suburb of Raleigh?

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Obviously it is still a suburb of Raleigh (and I would say RTP) but Cary does have some major employers. Cary with SAS, HCL, Apple ( at least for the next few years), Epic Games, American Airlines etc the '“town” of Cary has thousands of jobs. Maybe a better phrase in that article would have been a former bedroom suburb which tends to indicate everyone commutes someplace else. Apex is probably more of a suburb to Cary than to Raleigh. In terms of tourism I think their major draws would be the Wake Med Soccer Park and their USA National Baseball training facility which draw thousands to the town year round for tournaments etc.

I personally came to Cary to see the Chinese Lantern festival a few years back and it was great.

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That article was long on Koka Booth.

And to be clear it was phrased much more in a “you obviously already know Raleigh, Durham, and Chapel Hill” way.

I mean, it is a suburb though. I grew up in San Francisco and just because people usually commuted to the Valley, it didn’t move the centers of gravity for the region away from SF/Oakland/San Jose to like Mountain View or Cupertino.

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Narratives, ain’t they grand?
Nice (big) town, not (dangerous) city…

Fullsteam Brewery is moving their taproom and kitchen to American Tobacco Campus, and the brewing to Fortnight’s location in Cary. Hope they can breathe some life back into ATC.

https://www.newsobserver.com/living/food-drink/article291903250.html

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Speaking of Durham, I was up there the other day and snapped a photo of what $300K can buy you:
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Teardown-quality houses in Hayti have recently sold for $200K, not a whole lot less than in Raleigh. Yet Raleigh hasn’t matched Durham’s “small homes / small lots” code for ease of use, so these starter homes don’t (yet) exist anywhere except in distant sprawl.

Doesn’t exactly fit the doom-and-gloom narrative widespread just a month ago. Also glad about the vote of confidence in Fortnight – a low-key spot that consistently turns out excellent beer.

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I believe Tribucha also still brews in the Fortnight facility. Good business outsourcing their equipment it seems.

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i kinda got that back in the late 80s…clt visitor hated raleigh. then I lived there in the early 2000s. i wasn’t impressed then with civility.


Air quality index of over 160 due to forest fires makes the Sun orange. One night in this town and I can’t wait to get out. The air is just disgusting!