Yep sounds about right. Downtown population around 11k by 2022. That’s a big deal for further downtown momentum
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And it puts DT proper nearly at the 10,000ppl/SM2 metric.
By 2025, it could reach 12,000ppl/SM2
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What really jumps out at me is the number of units under construction - it appears that DTR is gonna about a third to its housing total. That is pretty darn impressive growth right there, though I imagine its pretty cyclical.
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This is PNC Park in Pittsburgh and the view of downtown is amazing, this is the reason I’d love to have an outdoor stadium in downtown Raleigh!
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There are a lot of things I love about Pittsburgh that we’ll likely never have in Raleigh. We don’t have rivers flowing around downtown and we don’t have a mountain overlooking downtown. I do love what they did with the sports stadiums at 3 rivers after the old stadium. I actually saw a few Pirates games there!
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I’ve never been to Pittsburgh, despite growing up in NY. Everything I keep hearing about it makes me think it’s worth a visit. Just seems weird to tell people you’re vacationing in Pittsburgh…
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I highly recommend visiting Pittsburgh. It is one of my favorite cities in the US. I have tried to leave Sprawleigh behind and move to Pittsburgh several times, but never had any luck.
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From their airport, they have one of the more spectacular entrances into a downtown. You don’t see it anywhere, you go into a tunnel, come out the other side and bam, it’s right in front of you.
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For those of us of a certain age, the turn around/remaking of Pittsburgh is nothing sort of amazing. I’ve never been, but its on the list of places I really want to visit.
I’m headed up there next weekend. If you like beer, food and sports it’s really a great place to visit. Best thing is to get a hotel room downtown or as close as you can park the car for a weekend and Uber around.
Where Raleigh has almost a small town feel as a city, Pittsburgh has a big city feel. Downtown and the surrounding neighborhoods and even Pittsburgh adjacent towns are just so much more dense than here. Even though the two cities are close in population the difference is night and day.
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I think I’m convinced. If I can survive a train trip to Charlotte this weekend, I’ll put it on my list
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…don’t you mean, “Pittsburgh” 
Pittsburgh had a population of over 650,000 towards the middle of last century so it’s not surprising that it still has a very urban feel to it. Not only that, PNC, Mellon, and UPMC maintain a huge corporate presence in the city that has outlasted steel and the other industrial parts of the economy. The far-flung urban neighborhoods are where the city has really not bounced back…lots of working-class neighborhoods that are practically ghost towns today.
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A lot of old industrial cities peaked in population around 1950 as they were recovering from back to back depression and wartime. One of the reasons why they peaked then is that families often packed into small accommodations and lived generational as a matter of survival (depression). Once WW2 started, addressing these housing was paused to support the war effort. When the post WW2 boom began in the early 50s, and suburbs became a thing, dispersion began. This thinned out population over time. Then, as “factory” jobs started disappearing through offshoring of jobs and automation, even more people left. It’s unreasonable to expect any of these cities return to their post WW2 peak population within the same footprint and built environment.
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Pittsburgh is definitely worth a weekend visit.
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Pittsburgh native here. I highly recommend the 4th of July. There’s a big festival out at the confluence (Point State Park) and they shut down a few of the bridges at night so you can stand on them to watch the fireworks.
Also, the year I went, the Pirates finished up a home series where they swept the Nationals. The stadium was clearing out as the fireworks started and everyone was in a great mood crossing the bridge back in to downtown.
But, anyway, the food is really good too. Nice blend of Italian, German and eastern European. Check out the Strip District.
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I’m from Pittsburgh and trust me the downtown area has got to be one of the best in the country, with rivers, mountains, ferry boats, in-clines, all the old historical buildings mixed in with the new modern ones, it’s a great city to visit if you’re looking for a trip for a long weekend!
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I’m from Pittsburgh too (Altoona actually but I just say Pittsburgh to non Western Pa people bc no one knows where Altoona is) with @Tenkai Also from the Burgh how many Yinzers are on this site?
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Now I know why there are so many steeler’s fans everywhere.
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@Cps114 and @JosABanks
I would truly love to know what it is about Raleigh for the two of you? 
When I ask why people came to Raleigh it’s usually school, job, family. But then I would ask why stay in Raleigh? That’s where answers get fun/interesting… 
…especially if Pittsburgh is as awesome a place as y’all have stated and I have heard that it is? 