The true rooftop pools I have seen in Charlotte in apartment or hotel towers are more akin to super sized rectangular hot tubs without the jets. They are usually very shallow. Actually this proposed pool deck atop probably the parking garage as someone mention looks great. It is still elevated and it is the top of the roof that wing of the building.
This is the typical Miami model where the recreation deck is atop the pedestal parking deck. It’s a bit lipstick on the pig, but it’s better than a pig without the lipstick.
To a large degree the pool on top of a parking deck is a structural decision. Pools are heavy and decks can be constructed to support very large dead loads. Plus no pool size or depth constraints and plenty of sunny deck options for the surrounds.
Putting a pool on a building rooftop, like Skyhouse, limits both its depth and size. Plus there’s always a leak concern even if just tenant imaginations.
Personally I wish all parking deck top levels, whether public or private, were required to be open space improved with park amenities (dog parks, green space, etc). No one wants to park there anyway and they are a blight on the accompanying tower’s viewshed foreground.
We should see some groundbreaking ceremony very soon, I should think. Especially since the hotel is supposed to open in 2027. Financing is already secured. Not sure if I am sharing anything you didn’t already know. This will be a wonderful development and will help to inject some additional life into Fayetteville St… Can’t wait!
Unfortunately in commercial real estate, 50BP’s won’t move the needle. We need cuts around 25bps incrementally, when they do major cuts as such then it’s not good news. I still think they need to secure construction financing with will be the hardest part.
During the April 16, 2024 Council meeting, City Council approved a $495,000 agreement with Omni to advance preconstruction work and provide reimbursement for some of those costs should the City be unable to deliver a commitment to provide the $75 million in financing for public-serving amenities within the project. Two additional reimbursements have been approved administratively (the sum total of which fall under the City Manager’s delegated contracting authority) to keep pre-construction activities moving as the City seeks financing approval.
Since that time, Omni has completed the conceptual design for the hotel and staff has continued negotiations with the development team on a range of instruments documenting the transaction. The parties have reached agreements in principle on the ground lease, the master development agreement, and the room block agreement, among other documents. Summaries of these documents and a request to authorize the City’s execution of these and the other instruments establishing the obligations of the parties for the project will be presented during the November 19 City Council meeting.
Trying to figure out the height. I’m assuming each floor would be about 12’ but also considering the first 2 floors may be a bit higher since they’ll be the lobby & conference rooms, so maybe 15’ each? That would put the height above 300’. Unless the new civic tower is going to be 300’+ I believe this will be the first tower to fall between 300’-400’ in downtown.
These were in the afternoon Council meeting yesterday as well…
The renders seem to suggest well thought out place making (replacing a parking lot…!) -
The pool area on top of the podium with its ‘relaxing cafe’ will be a pretty nice new DTR amenity…