Sites 2 & 3, Omni CC Hotel + Tower

They provided another angle with a view down Fayetteville St.

The video also places the height of these buildings well over the PNC.

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Raise your hand if you’ve already read the RFP! :raising_hand_man:t3:

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The one on the east side invokes the Archdale Building. Not sure if good or bad :thinking:

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Wow that is pretty amazing but let’s not hold our breath for anything close to that.

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What’s the link to that youtube?

It’s under “The Site” section of top links

It puts into perspective the time-frame this process started by looking at FNB’s progress

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Dang… I’ve been waiting 15 years for even the slightest possibility of seeing the next tallest tower in Raleigh.

Let’s hope the RFI produces the goods.

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If these renderings became reality (not expecting that, just saying if) PNC would look so petty in comparison with its spire lol

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One thing I did find interesting was this timeline they posted regarding the allocated funds and the fiscal year they become available. Does this mean the project cannot break ground until FY 2023?
Also they plan on using $14M sometime this year to purchase land for the convention center expansion, but don’t they already own the Red Hat amphitheater property?
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Except… I think the PNC has a somewhat interesting/instantly recognizable crown (the pyramid + spire) whereas these (conceptual, I know) renders crowns are pretty blah and unremarkable. I hope whatever goes there has more interesting crowns if these end up becoming Raleigh’s new tallest.

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I haven’t read it yet. NO SPOILERS :astonished:

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Not to be picky because I’m glad the skyline is getting taller, but this shot the skyline looks so linear, and I know it’s just a rendering, hopefully the towers will be angled and not just a straight line and I’m also hoping a entertainment complex that complements Fayetteville st nothing over the top maybe a movie theater, bowling and a international style food hall maybe a small sound stage since we will be losing the red hat amphitheater

I think that the renderings are exaggerated in some of the video shots. I mean, just look at that 2:10 mark in Drew’s post. Those towers look 800 feet+ in that rendering, and that’s just ridiculous. Frankly, if the hotel tower maxed itself out at 40 floors including some residential, it’s totally possible that it would be shorter than the crown on PNC. As for the office tower, it would no doubt be taller than PNC, but it’s likely to max out in the 650 foot range if it doesn’t have a spire.

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If the city is really trying to push for height, why would they handicap themselves with this statement:

**40: The height is limited to 40 stories. **

Not that you should or shouldn’t state the current zoning, but it appears that anyone interested in or in need of something say in the 42 to 45 story range is SOOL…?

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Surely that would be up for negotiation if a dev thought the market demanded more.

If the west tower is truly just hotel (and perhaps some residential), it will be shorter at 40 floors than the office tower of the same floors. The west tower could be up to 200 feet shorter.
Let’s say that the hotel had a 20 ft first floor height, and a 15 ft. mezzanine level, followed by 38 floors that measured ~11 ft. slab to slab. That would put the roof somewhere around 450+ feet.
Now let’s say that the office tower had a similar 20 ft. first floor, and 15ft. mezzanine level followed by 38 floors that measured 16 ft. slab to slab. That would make its roof height around 640+ ft. Add parapets and some sort of crowing effect, and the hotel could easily push 500 ft., while the office building could approach 700 ft. I guess that it all depends on what sort of aesthetic that the design team pursues.

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I love the design for these towers but I would prefer them to be on a different block that is more central in downtown. I just feel it would be weird having the two tallest buildings in our city on the southern edge of downtown.

Unfortunately what we have to remember is as exciting as these renderings are and how great it is that the city council wants to go big…we still have to get tenants to fill up that much office. We have to find a major hotel tenant too which is a scary thought seeing as so many of these little 9-12 story middle scale ones have been sitting in limbo for years. Our downtown market unfortunately isn’t like Charlotte’s with an economy driven by companies that want vertical office space. Nor do we really have the amenities or big corporations that fill the demand of a high rise premium hotel.

I just want to make sure our enthusiasm is curbed a bit here. Unless of course the city is aware of some future developments that we just don’t know about. :thinking:

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This is a short-sighted outlook - The city will grow around it.

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