State Government

my dad worked there for nearly 35 years…had the Admin and the Albermarle next door, sharp stuff for the 60’s in NC

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Perhaps it is time for NC to get out of the 60’s. Read into that what you will :upside_down_face:

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Unfortunately may not happen in the direction any of us anticipated.

The admin building needed to come down as it has a ton of asbestos. While I see many celebrating the education agencies housed in one building, this is the beginning of a merger that will negatively impact our state. My 2 cents…

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Gonna need more than loose change - why do you think that?

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Aha, I did not know about the asbestos problem. Thanks for the info.

Power dynamics in education are heavily influenced by political environment. UNC and DPI are powerful, NCCCS - not so much.

The DPI building has black mold so I am glad they are not all moving there. Even though they were recently renovated before everyone moves. :thinking:

Are you saying that the NCCCS will suffer from the combination of these education entities being in the same building? I’m curious because I see that system continuing to grow in value to our state. There’s a lot of the population that is increasingly frustrated with what secondary education has become and it seems to me that the Community College System is a great solution to those frustrations.

Relating this to our community, Wake Tech is doing an incredible job of preparing our population to be highly productive members of our community either straight out of school or in parallel with on the job training. Really good stuff they’re doing.

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As a community college teacher—thank you for your kind words.

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It’s actually a real problem that the UNC system hasn’t had a proper central office in recent memory. 17 colleges, close to 300,000 students, and theyve been operating out of borrowed space. For comparison, this is the building housing SUNY (New York’s statewide university system).

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Is that what’s in there? Neat. Have driven by those buildings countless times (grew up in that area).

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They did have a central office in Chapel Hill until like 2021 but the legislature made them sell it and rent space in the reorganization and move to Raleigh. I’m not saying that the consolidation is an entirely terrible idea because I don’t know, but the reality is that these changes were largely done as a part of Republicans’ efforts to bring UNC and the rest of the system to heel for being perceived as too liberal.

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The move to Raleigh was 100% political, but now that ship has sailed, and I hope they get a decent building. The current situation is a mess – they are leasing the top floors of The Dillon but in practice, a lot of the staff are housed offsite. And the old HQ in Chapel Hill next to the softball fields at UNC always seemed like a slapdash fix, not really befitting one of the country’s largest and most prestigious state university systems.

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The newish UT System building in Austin is really nice. Hopefully this one comes out similarly.

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Maybe something like the DHHS on Blue Ridge. Shadows may cover the Legislative Building, hopefully. :wink:

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if i recall the community college building was just across jones? very near the demolished admin building for years…people regularly walked across the street or a block to ‘speak about stuff’ in another building. if it can be in one building or via zoom meeting, swell? if its the unc system bending politicians’ ears…isn’t that likely occurring at the legislative office building?

Does anyone know when they plan to actually demolish the building? It’s big enough that I wonder if they’re considering any implosion?? I’d love to watch it, whatever they end up doing.

They have said they’re not doing an implosion and that it will be dismantled over time.

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To be fair, SUNY Plaza wasnt built for SUNY itself and they bought it cheap from the D&H Railroad after it was sitting abandoned. Had SUNY not done so, it probably would’ve been demolished as the nearby areas which became I-787 and Empire State Plaza had been prior.

Also, current DEI brouhaha aside, NC usually treats their public universities better than NY does. Heck, UAlbany is constantly a chew toy in the SUNY system and sometimes in the local concience plays second fiddle to a 3k student commuter college. Fair trade?

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Yeah, New Yorkers don’t have much respect for the SUNY system - heck, Cornell even took their land grant money. It’s a consistent theme across the northeast where state schools often came after the networks of elite private colleges were already established and therefore weren’t considered something to strive for.

Makes it hard for places like Rutgers, Stony Brook, and UConn that are good schools that do their job well to get top-tier funding and resources.

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