Two Hillsborough


#62

It was going in on West Street. I think from Peace to Hillsborough. The construction in smokey hollow might be holding it up.
Edit: It was West, but from Martin to Jones
I thought I had seen the downtown plan showing a connector between Devereaux Meadows and Dix along West so assumed this too would start at peace.


#63

You’re doing good dude. I hope you don’t mind…I invoked your situation in another thread here. Situations dictate this stuff a lot of times and we, unfortunately as John Q citizens, don’t get to arrange the streets and development they way we want it. I used to spend some time in a house off Creedmoor that was behind a grocery store, and we could easily cut through the loading dock area on foot and shop there…did it after a big snow fall in the 90’s actually, because we had to, before we realized that was even an option. There were no sidewalks of course, but we made a game of making tanks of gas last as long as possible.


#64

No worries man, I work in an industry that prefers the burbs just due to the nature of our work. But there is chatter of moving the office into the city to attract younger staff. I was lobbying to move to One Glenwood, but we are stuck out by the airport for another three years. Maybe one day we will end up downtown. Fingers crossed!


#65

I was stuck on Capital for 11 years and finally got moved downtown (State employee). Now all the talk is moving the State out again because the real estate is too valuable. FML.


#66

I think that it’s grossly over-confident to think that Raleigh won’t need parking in 10, 15, or even 20 years or more. IMO, Raleigh won’t be remotely Manhattan-like in any of our lifetimes. While we can reduce the dependency on cars by offering more opportunity for people to not get in one, it won’t eliminate the need for cars altogether, especially since DT isn’t just for the people who live there or those who are fortunate to live near a limited number of future commuter stations on future rail lines.
I whole heartedly agree with building parking structures for future conversion, but I’m not holding my breath waiting for that conversion to happen.
Another option for projects like 2 Hilllsborough is to put the parking underground. Clearly, this isn’t financially viable yet since the decision was made to put parking across the street on yet another parcel. If the value of the land across the street + the cost of building a garage was more than the cost of going underground with it, then the parking would be underground. We need land costs to soar to the point that this garages above grade no longer make sense. Unfortunately, this would also make all future housing even more expensive as land costs figure into those prices as well. That said, I don’t see either happening anytime soon, baring an announcement from Amazon that they’d be coming to DT Raleigh with HQ2.


#67

I enjoy discussions about parking! Demands for parking are changing in Downtown Raleigh and we will continue to see adjustments from both private developers and public regulation. Technology will also continue to change this discussion. I hope that a balance can be maintained with respect to encouraging other modes while also being realistic about automobile use.

Underground parking can drive up costs even more than above ground parking decks and will be much harder to redevelop (if at all). I kind of agree that stand alone decks with retail on the bottom (and top) offer the most flexibility.