William Peace and Seaboard Station

I read it meaning total space. (for everything) Take the current amount of space there and when adding more retail AND new uses like apartments, hotels, etc. we’d be at an 8x increase in space.

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I too read 800,000 total with 90,000 ft2 more retail.

It is hard to understand the scope of the project. Some highlights, as I can tell:
The developer, PN Hoffman of DC, bought 7 acres that make up Seaboard Station from Peace Univ in 2018.
They’ll spend $250M for the multi-phase redevelopment, which will grow the center from 100K sqft to 800K sqft, with a max of 650 apartments, 90K sqft of new retail. But that’s when it’s all done.

The current phase is for a single acre of parking and landscaping area to become a 7-story, 311K sqft mixed-use project that would include 96 apartments, 150 hotel rooms, and 10.3K sqft of retail.
And a 236 space deck.

Here’s a table view of the current phase vs the total buildout.

Total Space Retail Space Hotel Rooms Apartment Units Parking Spots
Phase 1 311.4K 10.3K 150 96 236
Phase 2+ n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a
Total 800.0K 90.0K 150 650 n/a
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A new subscriber article in TBJ has a little bit of new info. The developer is opening a new office at seaboard which is its first outside DC. They are also changing their name to Hoffman & Associates. And finally there is a rendering I don’t think I had seen before. It shows some kind of plaza with a modern looking pergola type thing.

https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2019/08/27/dc-based-developer-behind-major-raleigh-project-to.html?iana=hpmvp_trig_news_headline

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I can’t recognize anything here so this rendering looks pretty generic.

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I think I can kinda make out Peace College in the background if I squint and use my imagination.

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This is looking east. the 6 story building in the center is where the tennis courts are now.

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So I’m thinking that pergola type thing or trellis or whatever is the back of the current Seaboard 18 building

Its the retail space on Seaboard Ave in the hotel building in Phase 1. Pink trees in the background are the amenity area outside the apartment building.

Ok if that’s the case, I think the building in the foreground all the way to the left must be the Seaboard 18 building (or what it will be replaced with, I should say).

Such boring people in that rendering.

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Renders released in October should legally required to have zombies and ghouls.

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Whoa, the two-story potion of that building is actually pretty interesting. Ivy growing up the brick facade. Second level is really an open air rooftop with umbrellas! Dual-level walkway at sidewalk level.

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I wish greenery in renderings was more often a reflection of actual design intent, and not just a way to distract from mediocre architecture :expressionless:

Design school rendering 101: when in doubt, plop a tree on the roof or some vines on the facade.

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I went to design school…never took a rendering class. :wink:

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Boring? Look at that tall dude with brown hair wearing the dark beige pants and lighter beige shirt with the matching beige tie and beige shoes! You can seriously call that boring?

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Well, not in Cary at least!

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You didn’t draw trees in front of the weakest parts of your designs back then? :upside_down_face:

This is nothing compared to the wildness that the Willard renderings displayed. I thought we had turned a corner but alas we’re right back where we started.

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You guys are a tough crowd. It’s a huge improvement on what’s there, more density, more hotel rooms, and more height. And they have a really good reputation with what they have done in DC. Maybe a little chill?

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