William Peace and Seaboard Station

People love cities for their charm, not just their density. Erase all the charm for the sake of density alone and you get a crowded place that nobody loves. We’ve tried that before, and so did the Soviets, and so are the Chinese. It doesn’t work.

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If it is truly worthy of saving, move it…. :exploding_head:

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“Alexa, play Golden Hour, by Kacey Musgraves.”

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No matter what Raleigh tears down, it could always be worse…

Wow, now that’s a tragic loss.

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I normally like the RALToday newsletter but crap like this is a bit irritating. Pick and choose what you report to represent an agenda. The Logan project is so much more than a parking deck but you wouldn’t know it from this blurb.

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My first reaction to that station was it’s a converted 40’s/50’s gas station.

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Disingenuous communication breaks trust with the public and risks meaningful engagement that can lead to the best results. To me, this is similar to the developer presenting that his context at that location is supported by a future 12 story building on top of the current Cotton Mill. That won’t happen unless the Cotton Mill freakishly burns to the ground.

IMO, just present the proposal properly and let it be judged on its merits. Be objective and honest about the context and acknowledge that there will be folks who are unhappy.

The reality is that this proposal is as far away from the Cotton Mill as it would be if it were across the street from it instead of across a railroad track.

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This happened in the 60’s with “urban renewal.” What a loss it was for Birmingham. Of course the same thing was happening at that time in Raleigh. We lost a great building when the Baptist School for Girls beside the Governor’s mansion was razed. It could have been a terrific boutique hotel.

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There are actually a good number of buildings that were lost in the last several decades.
http://goodnightraleigh.com/2017/04/you-are-invited-to-explore-lost-raleigh-this-sunday-april-23-at-mordecai-historic-park/

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I didn’t know that history only happens in “pretty” buildings.

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Everything that has happened in the past is history, and every building where these things have happened is historic.

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I don’t see how showing surrounding by-right height entitlements is disingenuous just because the owner (the condo association) is unlikely use them.

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Realzing the proposal for this 4 building development only includes 1 single ground floor retail space at the very end … this is so stupid, could literally line the entire street level of this development with retail to continue the Seaboard shopping/dining offerings that are currently only set to expand more and more… UGH WHY

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Does 1978 count as within the last several decades? That’s the latest year of demolition stated in the link

Sadly, I see them keeping the shell of the Seaboard Station gutted out as a fancy entry into the parking deck.

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Best. Parking. Deck. Ever.

I’m not above a good facadectomy. Bad ones can be hilariously bad, but it’s not like this building has an amazing interior to preserve.

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I hate those storage buildings on Capital so much :man_facepalming:t4:.

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I’d be more inclined to keep the station and shell to use as a portal of entry to either of the plinths featured in the presentation. Just stack them each on a parking podium like we’ve seen everywhere else in the area.

The trackside entry could easily be used as a restaurant amenity with outdoor seating under the retained canopy.

(Thinking of the old Giuseppe’s in Colorado Springs)

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