William Peace and Seaboard Station

Encompasses breweries + distilleries, fast casual set ups, micro food halls, etc.

Think of Standard and Young Hearts for instance. They’re not “restaurants” per se, but they have kitchens and good food.

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What about phase two

Apartments, more retail, and Hyatt House. Breaks ground late this year I believe.
There was discussion maybe about a month ago in this thread about it.

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Still holding out hope for music venue

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The 20 story rezoning of the Logan property at Seaboard Station area will be reviewed by the Planning Commission on the 24th of May. I suspect this will be a long process due to the nature of the property.

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with kings, neptunes, and imurj gone we definitely need some sort of replacement

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What are people’s thoughts on this? Or was this already covered and I missed it?

I feel like that property could be used to do some really creative things, and it has some decent history to it. I’m kinda hoping the zoning doesn’t pass.

That said, if zoning doesn’t pass, does it mean they halting other plans? Is there some kind of negative tradeoff?

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Maybe it will be a ‘Music Concept’.

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Move the building, keep the train awning and include it in a new glass structure? :+1:
Either way, I just hope that they don’t completely remove all trace of everything that came before it! :disappointed_relieved:

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Build an immense lobby with the train building inside it. Like this shot tower I stumbled on in Melbourne, Australia.

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The newest blocks of the Wharf in DC (Hoffman’s big project) are starting to open to the public, and the architecture at least is rather more daring than what we saw with the first phase.

Renderings for comparison: Gallery

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Ooo, thanks for the heads up, we’re heading to DC on Friday!

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Might be my favorite development I’ve spent time in anywhere tbh
Hopefully Seaboard ends up giving us a small scale of that vibe.

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I LOVE LOVE LOVE that first building there in the foreground. What the hell is up with that one in the far background though? That’s wonky. That would never, ever get built in Raleigh.

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Watching some planning commission today related to the rezoning and thought I’d post it here in case anyone wants to watch also. This is from May 24.

I find this kind of interesting in a confusing way. :thinking:

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Also saw this odd shaped land for sale (and already under contract)

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Seems like the best (or likeliest) scenario would be moving the train station to the north end of the property?

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I am incline to think leaving it in place & making it part of the new build is the best solution. I rather keep things where they are if possible.
The center block was built as a lobby, seems simple to repurpose use it again.

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I think this is the focal point of the discussion. This commissioner’s comments + the lawyer’s response.

I didn’t realize that Logan’s COULD have had the historic protections put in place but they didn’t want it. Logan’s didn’t want the RHDC to add those historic protections in the past. From my POV, that probably means adding historic protections lowers the value of the property.

Logan’s was all good working in and around the station building. It fit their business but clearly, as any business that operates to maximize their value, you most likely don’t want restrictions put in place. So denying the historic protections makes sense.

Logan’s could have demolished the station years ago. But of course they wouldn’t do that cause it worked well for their business. They didn’t need more indoor space as a garden center mainly operates outdoors.

Now, they sell and move on while the new developer is seen as the bad guy even though they are doing SOMETHING in the name of preservation when they don’t have to.

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