Zoning and Density

Ok those Buccee’s stations are God’s gift to roadtrippers and I love them deeply. Clean bathrooms, great food options.

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We visited one on a trip in TN to see what the hype was about and it almost gave my wife a panic attack it was so crowded and bright. The bathrooms were… fine. They don’t magically clean urine off the seat :person_shrugging: so my experience was pretty par for course for a gas station, with shinier tile.

I have the sticker on my water bottle now like a war trophy.

I guess I don’t mind something like that in the middle of nowhere that you’d only reach in a car anyway, but I gotta agree with @Nickster that the overall vibe is oppressive automotive “southern hell” (to quote my wife).

I know I’m getting radicalized because every time I walk across a blacktop parking lot in this heat, dodging vehicles backing out of spaces, I get more and more fed up with it all. I just want to be on my bike under a nice tree canopy, like on Person St.

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The Person Street bike lane is the best one downtown. Except on Sundays.

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Tru dat. If they ever open a Buccees near me I’m going there to take one. No need to use my own bathroom. Will even bring my IPad. Bathrooms are on point.

I drive back and forth from Raleigh to Orlando for school and really hated buccees at first just because I’m so against car dependency and all that, but they really are helpful especially when most of the exits in the south are so rundown and gas stations don’t even feel safe let alone clean. As long as they stay along interstates and don’t come near the cities I’m fine with them lol.

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I drive back and forth between Miami and Raleigh. I have figured out how to only stop at Costco for gas. Coming from Raleigh, I stop outside of Savannah and then again in Palm Beach County before the last 80 miles or so into MIami. I do the same in reverse. While it could seem sort of stupid to stop after only 80 miles of driving, I time my departure from Miami to arrive in Palm Beach County just as Costco gas is opening. From there, I can get to Savannah on that tank, and then to Raleigh on the Savannah tank.

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Read that sentence again… slowly this time :rofl: :joy:

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In our country, and especially in places like Raleigh and Orlando, it’s nearly impossible to not use a car from time to time. One can be against car dependency and still need to drive. For example, I do my very best to be as car independent as I can. While I drive the long distance from Miami to Raleigh twice a year, the amount of driving I do otherwise is very light when I am in either place. My 6 year old car only has 22,000 miles on it and that includes the mileage making that trip back and forth. I am guessing that @mario may have a similar story.

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We’re in America Jake. Its pretty impossible to not be car dependent if you don’t live in a select few urban centers. That doesn’t mean you can’t also advocate against it.

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Orlando requires a car, an hour of driving, and $10 of tolls just to get to and from the gym each day.

(Unfortunately, spoken from experience)

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As someone with my own Florida experience, I can attest that the state will fee you to death with things like tolls. However, I have to ask how far away your gym is if you are doling out 10 bucks in tolls to get there?

I know bruv I’m not clowning you - I just thought it was funny!

Listening in on this Board of Adjustment trial for the subdivision of 908 Williamson. Geez, all this nonsense over simply trying to put 17 townhomes on a 2.4 acre site in the middle of the city.

Do these save the neighborhood folks not realize an alternative would be 9 mega mcmansions and that would have equally or probably even more impact on the neighborhood?

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It’s a pretty old house and grounds across from literally the largest, most old money mansions and plots of land in the city. It was always going to be a circus.

Shame the house’s interior is such a wreck - if it had been cost-effective to fix it up I’d be inclined to call it historic and protect it.

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I’ve been watching all day as I can. I just pause when I can’t listen. The gymnastics being performed by the neighborhood’s attorney is Olympics aspirational, but I don’t think that he’s gonna make the team.
It really pisses me off (and I can’t help but think it’s intentional) that the neighborhood’s attorney is referring to Justin Rametta (the city’s planning and zoning administrator) as just Justin, which I think is a flex and a way to talk down to him. He’s also come up against him during questioning in an almost “breathing down his neck” sort of way that also comes across to me as a flex move.
Mr. Rametta has so far retained his cool, despite the increasingly ramping-up aggression. It’s like the neighborhood attorney is attempting to do something akin to a slow boil of a lobster.

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“What is that thing” is not a law. Dude is a hack.

EDIT: He also called the construction ‘Gerrymandering’. That’s not what that is.

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Holy crap. I still have 2 more hours to go and I’m sick of watching and listening to the same thing over and over.

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I am on this board. Hours of testimony. I think we are on day 4 or 5 of this case spread out over several months. I can’t really remember. Today was especially painful with no AC in the meeting room. Final decision (hopefully) on Monday. Vote will be if there is standing to bring the appeal. And if so, do the applicants or the city prevail.

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What a quasi-judicial quagmire…all to simply go to court anyway…

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I thought that was you that I saw on YouTube!!!
Lord have mercy about not having AC! You poor things.

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