Agree - google maps is an ok starting point. Sometimes I pull up google maps street view to see and then tweak the route from there. Strava heat maps can give a good indicator of corridors folks feel comfortable on, too.
Are you thinking it would be helpful for Oaks and Spokes to create a map of some routes that are low stress?
I think it could be really helpful! The greenway system is pretty well mapped out, and adding in bicycle friendly roads might be able to help fill in some gaps for people who aren’t as confident off of the greenway system.
‘Windy’ is a great weather app, BTW. But they also have a side project 'windy maps" which focuses on outdoor activities. It has detailed amps of greenways, bike paths, walking trails etc.
There are plans to do that in some areas but much of the greenway is in narrow areas with limited space for expansion as well as, located in the floodplains. Especially in southeast Raleigh and different portions near downtown.
Expansion would be nice, but at this point I think just identifying certain roads as “bike friendly” and consolidating onto one map with the existing greenway system would be helpful. I don’t think a document like that exists. It seems like it would make a lot of sense to highlight some of these jazzy new bike lanes that we have downtown on a map with the greenways to show some interconnectivity where it might not be immediately obvious.
Some of the greenway detour routes need to be updated/removed on the Oaks & Spokes map. Also, as neighborhood bikeways get evaluated in the future, maybe some consideration should be made to add routes that may not have “facilities” but are bike friendly (25 mph speed limit, less than 1500 vehicles/day)
It’s clear that the City of Raleigh has not taken into account my need for a safe and convenient route from my house to the greenway. What the heck am I paying taxes for! /sarcasm. But seriously, if I were king of Raleigh, I would prioritize improving bike access from outside of the beltline into downtown, and I would like to see improved access from north of beltline to the crabtree creek trail. It’s like there’s a moat of busy streets and no bike lines from around NH to crabtree creek. Or where this is access, there are some pretty serious hills, not suited for all cyclists.
As a BPAC member, we’ve constantly reiterated our desire to city staff that we want an alternate bike route to Lassiter Mill between North Raleigh and the Crabtree Creek Trail (due to the hills on Lassiter Mill). We think that Atlantic Avenue would be an ideal candidate since it does not have an interchange with 440. It seems that the city has some heartburn over reducing lanes on Atlantic Avenue but we’ve pointed out that it is a recommended project in the city’s adopted bike plan from 2016, and they have projects completed/in the works on either end (Blount/Person & Atlantic Ave widening north of Highwoods). I think the 440 bridge over Atlantic is another issue with the limited width under the bridge.
That’s nice to know. Sounds like I should join. I guess eventually there’s a ped/bike bridge planned to cross 440 to the east of Six Forks, but I suspect that’s a long way off.
yeah in the Midtown-St. Albans plan, there’s a proposal to build a pedestrian bridge across 440 between Bush Street and Industrial Drive and a new road connecting Barrett Dr and Navaho Dr that should theoretically be a lower stress connection. Of course, these are just ideas/proposals for the time being and people need to stay engaged to make sure the city actually follows through with them and provides the safe pedestrian/cycling connection they’ve promised. I agree that cycling in Raleigh would be so much better if we improved our connections across 440/40.
Always feel free to drop by our meetings (we have a public comment segment at the beginning) or send us an email about your thoughts so more people at the city know how the public feels about this issue https://raleighnc.gov/bicycle-pedestrian-advisory-commission-bpac