Bloc 83 - One Glenwood and Origin Hotel

Great shots Dylan, but I still hate the design of One Glenwood.

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Drove by this site today. What all is going here besides the 2nd office building? I was surprised that the western corner of Bolyan and Hillsborough was cleared as well. It’s a big plot.

I think that is where the parking deck for Phase 2 is going

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Would there, could there, should there be a hotel on that parking deck as well? :thinking::wink::blush:

It’s the parking deck that will have ground floor retail, to the right in this rendering20191116_191305

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Thanks. I’ve been asleep at the wheel. What a premium lot for a block of concrete parking deck.

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You hate to see it. It’s a shame.

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We’re not a fan of parking pedestals either, but if they could have stacked the tower on the garage, that would save so much real estate. But the developers have a developer-unfriendly city to deal with so they live with the height restrictions and do it this way.

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I get that parking decks and parking pedestals aren’t sexy, and I get that a lot of people (on here) want to plan for a future car-free utopia. I think it’s worth reminding people that despite that, the vast majority of people like driving their cars, expect to drive their cars, and want to have accessible parking at their destination. I drive to downtown from my house every single time, as do most of the workers and customers that will be going to Bloc 83. At least this deck is going to have some decoration and ground floor retail, and it took the place of an abandoned gas station and overgrown lot.

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For all the anti car people, just remember before cars there were horses. If you think cars are bad try walking around in ankle deep horse pollution. Oh and when your horse was parked, it keep on dropping pollution. Those that could not afford horses lived in very densely packed apartments (as in family’s living in 2 rooms if they were lucky) in center of cities or isolated rural areas. Cars may take up lot’s of space but all in all are better than horses. So until citizens are willing to fork over the tax money to build a real mass transit system (while buses kind of work I do not think they really count) then there are going to be cars. Also without cars a lot of you city business would not be around because non-city people would find it hard to get to city to shop. Just think, going the 5 miles into city center to that bar, or restaurant you like would be a multi hour trip without your car. So when you dump on cars think what life would be like without them, kind of like 1870 or so. Had very smoky (see I learn from grammar nazi lol) trains going from city to city, but if did not live near a station still used that horse or long walk to get to one. Just my weekend rant - :crazy_face:

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The parking ratios for office buildings these days are crazy, because of the recent trend toward high density floor plans. Lenders are demanding too much parking as a part of their financing packages.

As much as I love to see more people heading downtown for work each day I really hate to see all those cars. Somehow we have to break the cycle. Just providing alternatives isn’t enough; few will change their habits if we maintain a commitment to spend whatever it takes to make it so driving remains just as easy as it is today.

I’ve not been strongly in favor of parking maximums but now I’m coming around to that conclusion. If parking gradually becomes more scarce, and therefore more expensive, I am sure there will be plenty of suburbanites who will kvetch over it because it’s a change, but in the long run, downtown will probably be better off.

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It’s not the cars, it’s parking deck, which is on the top of the ground instead of underground.

Two or 3 levels of underground parking will never be enough parking for any building of almost any decent height of building

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But let’s not forget that, also before cars, but after horses, there were streetcars and interurban trains running in American cities, including at least 20 systems here in North Carolina. Raleigh had such a system, the first in the state, and though it was originally propelled by horses, for most of its history the system was electrified. This solved the animal waste problem and, though not perfect, served as a real mass transit system to carry people around much more efficiently than cars or horses ever could. It wasn’t a horses vs. cars situation; there was a time when neither was prevalent. :slightly_smiling_face:

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All very valid points, as usual.

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My on-the-street photo from this past week, almost forgot about it.

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Ten levels maybe enough to do something.

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It really is a great example of where I support very little restriction on height…the limits over here had the consequence of forcing the development over a block and removing one of the very few houses from the 1870’s left in Raleigh.

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What are the chances that, with a more progressive, growth-friendly council, these developers eventually request re-zoning of the parking deck lot and build on-top of the deck? Does it look structurally sound enough to be built up on? I know a lot of decks are built to be future pedestals, like the Powerhouse Square deck (Glenwood South) and the Alexander Square deck (Fayetteville St). Even 4-5 stories built on top of this (maybe with eventual faux-windows down the side of the deck itself) would do wonders.

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Think there are other sites they would look at as easier to build on. (612 W. Hargett) And I believe someone hinted that the developers mentioned they were looking at the block across from the train tracks for a future residential tower phase? (512 W Morgan)

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