Bloc 83 - One Glenwood and Origin Hotel

Or about 20 minutes with a bicycle!:bike:

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Of course, I think the next most obvious bet for them is the lot on the other side of the current parking deck (612 W. Hargett), and with a potentially huge RUSbus Tower(s) on the same block, hopefully they go for a higher zoning there. And 512 W Morgan has been screaming for development for years now, wouldn’t be surprised at all if that was next after Hargett. But I have to wonder if they have long-term future plans for that 9-story deck once all these other lots are built out. Once they exhaust all their land surrounding Bloc-83, while I’m sure they will assemble land for other developments elsewhere around they city, surely there will be a point where they can only increase profitability of this assemblage by continuing to build up on that 9-story deck…

Is it me, or does that wall to the far left look really uneven and wavy…

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That photo is actually two photos stitched together. That explains that.

I’ve wanted a wide angle lens for years for shots like these. For now, stitching photos works ok.

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With the advent of the prefab tinker toy decks, I think the days of precast, overbuilt parking decks are over unless specifically built as a future pedestal.

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Have you seen the police horses around town? They have poop catchers on their rears. Cars also have pollution control nowadays, but at first they didn’t. People had to get sick and start dying before regulations came to be (think leaded gasoline e.g.). With horses some regulations did start such as regular poop wagons in downtown to scoop it all up. Had there been an EPA to regulate urban horses in 2019, the regs would probably have been better still. Also, cars are far far from pollution free. You are really making an argument against cities period by suggesting that cars make dense living completely unnecessary. Everyone else here seems to get that the sprawl enabler (cars) and density, with its benefits, are at odds with each other.

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Not saying cars are super, just that they are better than what came before and will be really hard to replace them. Could not have society we have today without them.

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I guess that’s what I’m asking- can anyone tell if this deck looks like it’s going to be built as a future pedestal? The renders make it seem pretty heavy duty…

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There’s no way to answer that. I think even an engineer would need to know how it was constructed in order to answer. Can’t tell from pictures afaik.

Well, here’s hoping, at least! Damn I just wish they masked the exterior with glass or fake windows (like the Wilmington St deck) or something. It’s just gonna be a giant black box.

It’s water under the bridge now, and it’s been mentioned before here, but it’s really disappointing that 2 Hillsborough didn’t have the pedestal underneath it. It would have lifted the majority of the occupied floors above 1 Glenwood and to the DT views.

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Not a fan of the brick punched openings look… Wilmington St deck screams 80s/90s.

A few observations:
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It looks like the metal screening is only on three facades; the fourth appears solid in this video, which implies that a building could butt right up against the deck. In that future context where the parking deck is not standing by itself, I don’t think the parking will look as bad.

I’ve designed a couple of parking decks as part of larger projects, and they are always extremely limited by cost, as you would imagine. Developers are often paying between 20-30k per parking spot for above-ground parking structures; they are rarely willing to spend much more to make them look nice, so forget about glass cladding. A clever designer focuses on the most impactful design elements to try and convince the client to spend a little more in those areas, and those usually end up being the stair towers and the ground-level condition. If you can put some money in those, let the screening be simple and recede.

They’ve done a few things right. There’s a flashy stair tower clad in glass and super graphics, and it’s ideally situated at the corner. Gives it an urban feel and clear entrance.


Ground level looks decent. As a pedestrian walking along the street, you’ll rarely ever see the full elevation of this deck. What you will see are those white elements that frame the retail, and hopefully the storefront is slightly set back to let the metal screen float above it.

I don’t like the screening; they definitely could’ve spent some time designing it better. It looks like they’ve just got different sized rectangles of perforated metal in three different colors. They could’ve done a more intricate pattern, or even just varying the distance the screen is held off the structure would’ve added so much depth to the facade… it does look very flat.

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On the subject of parking, I recently came across one of the best examples I’ve seen for how to do it well in an urban context… it’s in Kansas City.


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(more pics here)

Super simple, but a couple of moves make all the difference: flashy stair tower at the corner, and a ground level strongly articulated by a deep set-back and concrete frame. If you were walking by, it would almost feel like any other building. I’d like to see this kind of thought given to parking decks in Raleigh, since they’re clearly a reality we have to deal with.

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Looks great! MORE* LIVING WALLS IN RALEIGH!!!

*at least one would be a good start

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agree with @Jake, the living wall is awesome. I also like the deep set along the street and the arcade it creates. Covered walkways are awesome for the sudden or steady rains.

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Nat Geo had a recent issue (April 2019) on Cities and one section was about living walls on buildings in Singapore. Great issue cover to cover.

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Are they gonna finish?

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They put west Morgan on the new sign

The sign or do you mean the rest of the propeller blades on the top so this building can really take off? (note the roof)

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Are you talking about the power cable going from one street light to the next? It looks awful! :face_vomiting: :face_vomiting: