Forgive me if I’m skeptical of your qualifications to determine the structural integrity of historic structures. Sounds like you don’t have a clue.
These houses are fine and could certainly be renovated, I certanly won’t disparage them! But “could” is not always the same thing as should. getting density near downtown, and especially near Union Station is critical. In fact I kind of think the entire block west of here (Hargett/Boylan/Morgan/St Mary’s) should probably get redeveloped, too. Something around the scale of the Block 83 development, maybe even taller.
Let’s keep Boylan Heights as a historic single family neighborhood. Moving these houses there should be incentivized, there are several double lots and other opportunities through subdivision and recombination where it could happen, especially if the city bends the rules a bit in terms of setbacks, density, etc. But I really think this block is more valuable to the city as a whole, with very dense multistory development - even if it is a bit cookie cutter or boring or formulaic or whatever.
If we want to make Raleigh a more sustainable, less suburban, more lively, more transit-friendly city, then increasing the density of the core and the surrounding urban neighborhoods is priority 1.
It’s called gentrification. It just happens to be an uncommon community getting gentrified out in this instance. If the city steps in to stop this instance, it will be a bad look when it happens over there. No amount of words like “charm” or “historic” can distinguish that.
FWIW if you really care about these buildings I’ve seen several instances of a foundation/campaign/etc… raise funds to move an old building and save it from the wrecking ball. This includes Greenville, SC’s Wilkins house. That seems like a more productive use of time and energy.
Doesn’t matter about clues, I gave my opinion of what the place looks like its my opinion that they look like trash no need to get into what you think are my qualifications or whatever you just didn’t like what I said, if your opinion is different then cool.
Drew
Not sure where you got your information, but it is incorrect. The Brinkley property at 117 S Boylan will not remain undeveloped. It will be part of the footprint of Heritage Properties phase 3 along with the Crocker Family Properties lots which include 615, 613 and 611 W Morgan and the parking lot behind Calavera/Moonlight Pizza. It used to be a Boylan Ave address.
I thought the Brinkley’s were the only property not to sell. Thanks for the correction, I just searched the county’s property tax records and saw they still owned it. Have the property sales not occurred? the 3 parcels on Morgan also show the previous owners.
Due to Covid-19 county is just slow updating records. Or at least I’m almost sure that would be the excuse for slowness in updates. Ha it works for everything else. 
Unpopular opinion: I’d rather have 100 buildings like this instead of five 80 story towers that empty out at 5:00. 
How about 5 80-story towers that have a mix of residential (condos and apts), ground floor retail, commercial and a movie theater. 


would be nice but to keep it from looking like giving finger to Charlotte need a few in 50-60 range first. Unless that’s what is wanted 
Sorry just in weird mood this morning.
Silly Dylan, that would make too much sense. We don’t do that kind of stuff around here. 
I’ll admit, I’d like to see a bit more height in our skyline (more in the 30-50 story range instead of a couple of 80s that tower over anything else), but I agree that a ton of midrise buildings would actually do more to make downtown more active and vibrant.
DC is one of the best urban areas in the US and no buildings there are more than about 15 stories.
What Raleigh really needs to do is get rid of the undeveloped surface parking lots and massively underutilized parcels like Firestone.
and not trying to open up the Highwoods flood gates but…
The Edge lot (ducks)
FNB tower? PNC? We have mixed-used buildings they just aren’t that tall. Besides the movie theater part of course.
Sorry, I can be unnecessarily abrasive sometimes.
Hi Drew
The Brinkley property is on a long term lease/purchase with Heritage. The Crocker properties are under contract with closing expected some time in the Spring of 2022
Its all good man lol
I’ve been thinking a bit about this development, and I have to wonder if the developers are rethinking their plans given that Bloc83 is proposing 0-foot setbacks, with blank walls taller than this entire building along the entire shared property line? I don’t know about anyone else, but if I were living in one of these units, having my only windows be only a minimum of 6 feet from an 8 story concrete wall seems non-ideal.
Just chiming in to say I REALLY hate those Bloc 83 Phase 3 plans…
