Bring MLB To Raleigh

@dtraleigh how is this poll different than the one I posted? You moved mine to the semi-unrelated sports discussion chat.

Perhaps he hasn’t seen it to move it yet?

I’ll be honest. I don’t give the sports talks much thought. :man_shrugging:

1 Like

Got a link? Didn’t see it, but also didn’t search one out.

I thought it was basically a given that it would go near Lenovo Center. In fact, how about this:

Tear down Carter-Finley and put it there.

It’s an old stadium. Sure it’s been updated and expanded over the years, but its sight lines, overall layout, and construction, especially of the bowl and main grandstands, screams 1966. It’s not without its charm but the bones are over 60 years old. It’s been 20 years since the last expansion. Benches? In 2026? Ha. The game-watching experience is well below par for today; things outside of that (fan base, tailgating) have to carry the day in order to create an overall decent quality game day experience.

So, the baseball stadium goes there. Dundon is happy because his baseball team goes close to his hockey team and his entertainment district.

As for NCSU FB. Could they not share a stadium with an MLS team? I know MLS wants dedicated stadiums but they make it work in Charlotte and Atlanta. Not saying we go all-in on something like Mercedes-Benz stadium but I have always hated the way that Carter-Finley is a hopeless venue for soccer.

Having a massive football stadium that’s used for seven, maybe eight games a year plus a couple concerts is TBH kind of obnoxious. We could build a facility that could host NCSU, MLS, and also CONCACAF matches: Gold Cup, Nations League, Champions Cup, even, stuff like Club World Cup or EPL summer series. That lets the facility get a lot more use.

As for where: any of the suggested locations works. Spring Hill, Fairgrounds, Cargill, DTS. Even somewhere else in the Lenovo Center district.

5 Likes

Tear down Carter-Finley? Good luck with getting local/old-Raleigh support with that! haha

6 Likes

If you’re just trying to have a soccer & football combined stadium, it would make more sense to retrofit C-F: just add seats, remove a few rows at the bottom to allow for the soccer field width, add some luxury suites on the east side, and add a canopy over the seats. Boom, soccer and football stadium. And it would be right next to the entertainment district.

2 Likes

Wolfpack Football is the single biggest money-maker for NC State athletics and it’s not particularly close. NC State also owns Carter-Finley: the land and the stadium. I don’t want to say there’s zero chance that they would ever consider it, but you’d have to make it extremely attractive for them to move. The way you went about the post, you act as if it’s some kind of afterthought for the area and the school.

It’s NC State’s land and NC State’s call. Getting the university to voluntarily demolish their football home in exchange for a shared facility with an MLS team is a massive governance and political lift. The Wolfpack faithful would absolutely lose their minds, and the donor/booster class that funds the athletics department would need serious convincing.

It would probably be easier to get Iran and Israel to agree to a ceasefire that sticks.

7 Likes

NCST not playing on campus is just terrible. I can’t believe their fans and students don’t seem to care about it. It’s a huge loss to student experience and would be a top issue of mine if I was fan/alumnus

1 Like

Most people are fine with football being off campus for tailgating purposes. But if you ask any NC State fan about MBB, they all wish it was still on campus.

IMO, next to no chance moving CF ever happens unless Dundon or someone else comes up with a literal “offer you can’t refuse”.

7 Likes

There is no way on God’s green earth that I’d support that as a NC State fan. After donating money to build Lenovo Center along with thousands of other State fans, I never feel like I am in a facility that the university owns. I always feel like I’m a guest at an away event. I don’t want that to happen to football too, and we all know that is what will happen if combined into a multi-use stadium. It will be controlled by a different entity that will treat football fans like they are any other group of people despite the amount of giving that those fans contributed to build it. And let’s not kid ourselves that State fans won’t be asked to cough up tens of millions to make it happen.

3 Likes

I’ve never been to Doak field but is there room there to convert that to MLB stadium and share it with NCSU baseball?

I’ve attended once or twice, and I don’t think that there’s any way to put a MLB stadium at Dail. I just did a quick comparison with the DBAP, and it looks like that’s the largest stadium that one could put there if Lee Field was included in the land area.
The best place that seems to be available around State is on Centennial Pkwy across from Achievement Dr. It’s to the west of the Farmer’s Market, and I’m not sure if that land is part of Dix park or not.
EDIT: It looks like it’s not part of Dix. The master plan says it’s NCSU Spring Hill.

1 Like

Doak is one of the smallest fields in the ACC and is currently under a lengthy 4 year renovation that has been particularly underwhelming (to me at least). Doak is also geographically constrained with dorms to LF (although that is part of a redevelopment in the University’s master plan), tennis complex behind home plate/1st base line, and a creek beyond RF/CF.

One of my biggest complaints about NC State athletics in my lifetime (among many) is that they haven’t tried to use the lack of a major or minor league team in Raleigh to make going to State baseball games at Doak Field a better overall experience to draw more casual baseball fans in. I love going to games at Doak, but it seriously lacks amenities (there’s like a total of 15 toilets between genders for a park that seats around 3k).

5 Likes

This brings up a an interesting topic. Why do we have both Doak and Dail? I mean, I am sure it’s about donations/money, but it’s really silly to have two names.

Wait until you hear about Kay Yow Court in James T. Valvano Arena at William Neal Reynolds Coliseum

3 Likes

It’s just too much, and I was at State with both of those coaches.

2 Likes

At least those are named in honor of people involved with the program. Could be a lot worse, cough. Kroger Field.cough.L&N Federal Credit Union Stadium cough…

2 Likes

Funniest, most unrealistic post I’ve read on this forum really because it’s not gonna happen. The stadium will probably be at the Lenovo center die but not there. Dundon would have to give them an offer they can’t refuse to nice out of there.

Speaking of things named Dail, I assume that the NCSU football practice complex next to C-F is a potential MLB site. Inset shows Truist Park for scale:

The university also owns those woods east of C-F, and of course all the “green stripes” area are gravel parking lots.

1 Like