Dorothea Dix Park

While I already am aware the Brown Building will be renovated and repurposed as a food hall/events space (excellent use for it, especially in that close proximity to Lake Wheeler/Gipson Play Plaza), any idea what the Lineberger Building will be repurposed for??

And has there been confirmation yet that the Dorthea Dix hospital building (the big, beautiful albeit creepy building that sits atop the hill overlooking the Grove) will be reno’d to be a boutique hotel?

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Operations & Maintenance and Park offices

Still the plan to demo parts and renovate others, but the exact uses will be refined.

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Folks who haven’t actually read the master plan need to look this over twice. Notice how the most substantial components (IMO, like the Loop, creek restoration, and fields/trails near the creek) are scheduled to be completed in the next 5 years. People keep throwing 20 years out yet that’s not the plan. The next phase is starting soon so there will be no delay.

Gathering Place is the comp. IFKYK. Similar scale, $450MM in total and took about 4 years. Dix is being approached differently and it will take ~10 years (from the start of Gipson/Stone Houses restoration) for it to feel like Gathering Place. Still not bad. GP has multiple land bridges too, for those who think that part of the plan is too ambitious for Raleigh. (GP is in Tulsa, google it, idk how to embed links easily)

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We need that Pullen-Dix landbridge

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I know the Hub was also slated to be at the end of the 10 year plan. I think that’s the real game changer here for an all day gathering place.

The ideas of a restaurant and museum sitting at the top of the hill with the park around it is such a great idea. And I actually like that they’re building the park out first, because it’ll feel more like the final piece when it’s done.

Then, as you said, over the 10 years after there’s more lofty/long term goals for other parts of the park.

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When I went out to Tulsa for a race, I went to the Gathering Place. IT WAS PACKED!!! It took me 30 minutes to get through the parking lot and not find a place to park my rental car. All was not lost tho, the next morning, the race course ran by the park and under the tunnels connecting the park to the river. From the pics I’ve seen of the Gibson play area, Dix is well on its way to looking like the GP in Tulsa (sans the river).

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IDKSILIU (I didn’t know, so I looked it up). Looks like an amazing 66 acre park!

Some pics stolen from Google:

:exploding_head: These look awesome

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Do you have a shareable source for that Intel?

Source: Trust me, bro.

(friend of mine who has been involved shared that with me)

It’s deep in the chat, someone posted the renderings and more info sometime late last year.

Edit: https://go.boarddocs.com/nc/raleigh/Board.nsf/files/DBKKPX52E44E/$file/11.26.24PRCRDixParkLeadershipCommitteePresentation.pdf

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Yep, if Clearscapes is doing the upfit and members of the Dix Outreach crew having past Transfer experience, this should be a really nice amenity. Excited to see more.
On another random note, House of Many Porches turned out well - pretty cool repurposed house. Glad there’s concessions to be had. Forgive me for saying, HoMP is a kinda weird acronym for a play park adjacent market though..??.. :grimacing: Not sure I’m gonna be able to use that one…

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I’ve been calling it the “House of 1000 Porches” because it’s funny

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Should be a nice bookend to the market once opened up to the Gipson area…

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Always reminds me of the House of Black and White, temple of the Many-Faced God.

Oh god, that storyline bogged down GoT immeasurably…
Maybe we should put the Waif on Moore Square or Leaf piles in the Bike Lane…

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This place looks cool but unlike Dix, this park is far from downtown Tulsa and it doesn’t seem to have much development happening around it.

I like how Dix is poised to see 5 or so dense development near the Lake Wheeler entrance & gateway area.

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Really just hammers home how fortunate we are that the city bought the park back when it did.

And that we didn’t hem in our downtown with highways. Sorry Tulsa :sad_but_relieved_face:

Not that we aren’t hemmed in by SFH neighborhoods, but still

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Such a shame that they seemingly have activated their river really well - just looking at pictures it has all kinds of attractions down it - but completely cut it off from downtown with the interstate.

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In my view, Centennial Pkwy from Bilyeu to Lake Wheeler is dangerous since it has an absurdly wide median and large intersections. It seem like a perfect place for wrong-way drivers and running red lights. Roundabouts would be the obvious fix for it. I believe an underpass is also planned to be built to connect the park to Centennial Campus.

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A pedestrian underpass? Or one of the streets like Blair drive?