Downtown South development

That’s the defunct water plant north of the stadium correct? That could be a really cool integration - adaptive reuse development next to stadium with Greenway in between. Would be a unique twist that is very specifically Raleigh.

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(I do actually wish the Bulls stadium had this because it’s insanely hot all summer in most of the seats…)

But fair point, soccer stadiums do cover the fan seats at least, and the cool stadiums make this into an art form. Probably not as much for us here in Raleigh.

Looking at this picture, the whole stadium isn’t covered, just the seats. If the stadium was ringed by 40 story buildings, they wouldn’t even need to bother covering them, because…you know, shadows. (I guess that doesn’t help if it’s raining though)

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Also, gotta love the power of renderings.

We went from this:

North-Carolina-FC-Stadium-Downtown-South

to this:

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It looks like they have the north goal open though which could make a cool supporters section. I wonder if you can actually see the skyline in the background?
Also, I thought they had planned to trim the stadium to 10k since we didn’t get MLS when Charlotte did?? Is there hope?!

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I think that’s talking about the park-like structure built above Walnut Creek, between the stadium and the rest of DTS. That’s the only “bridge loop”-like thing I see on that map, anyways.

If you haven’t already noticed, the map in the article has the exact same layout and shape as the buildings in Kane’s latest renderings and site overview from last December. The site layout, including how the stadium looks separate from everything else (but they still try their hardest to make it seem integrated), is not new information. What is new is the full plan that also spells out more specific building use plans and rationales behind the designs.

Case in point: I found an architect’s portfolio uploaded late last month that includes designs for DTS. It looks like the renderings we’ve seen before were just high-level previews, and the full plan (i.e. what the article is hinting at but isn’t explaining in any meaningful detail) has more information. That portfolio had some ideas on what that looks like, though:

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Looks like the guy leading it from 10 Design is an NC State grad and a Raleigh native too (he refers to Raleigh as his ‘hometown’ in the article).

I am hoping he would take some pride of ownership here and really give us all a beautiful end product because this has so much potential to be game changing for Raleigh (future international friendlies, world cup qualifying matches, concerts, festivals, etc…)

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I’m always looking to learn something new, why aren’t wooden buildings environmentally friendly?

I could probably be wrong as I’m no environmental expert, but when they built one in Atlanta I could have sworn it was touted as being one of the most environmental friendly building in the city.

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It was…

“Laminated wood-beam construction is friendlier to the environment than concrete and steel, Heagy said, resulting in far fewer carbon dioxide emissions.”

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Wood is a renewable resource which makes it more environmentally friendly. I’m not sure about the glues and chemicals they need to laminate and build all of the pieces.

Each tree is equivalent to a water balloon filled with CO2 and every time one is cut down it bursts, releasing stored CO2 into the environment? I never knew that.

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The deforestation involved with collecting the wood is not sustainable. Unless the logging company/companies are replacing all of trees (same species). That’s why, in my opinion, it is not exactly environmentally friendly because deforestation is involved and trees have to be alive to absorb CO2 and the smaller trees (if they are even replaced) don’t absorb as much. It is more environmentally friendly compared to usual materials though.

Former paper maker here :raising_hand_woman:

So kind of. The CO2 is sequestered in the tree during growth. It’s typically only released if it’s processed somehow (ie burned) or allowed to rot. A lot of trees that are used are farmed and have been genetically modified to be fast growing because that makes more money. Plus, then you can guarantee a size, age, type, and general quality of the tree.

I’m not an iron smelting expert, but I do know that the smelting process is much tougher from an environmental standpoint. I just can’t quantify that difference from my immediate experiences.

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Biting my tongue here… please check your facts b/f posting.

Back to DT South!!

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I’d defer to someone with better knowledge of the industry but I’m fairly certain most timber production in the developed world is not the cut-and-run model you’re thinking of. I grew up surrounded by tree farms

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That’s simply incorrect. Mass timber (what an office building would be) is one of the most environmentally friendly building methods available. It is not the same as stick-built construction.

Commercially available mass timber products are thoroughly vetted and certified for sourcing from sustainably managed private forests, which currently grow more than 40% more wood than they can remove. You can read about it here.

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This is the porfolio of a former intern at our office. Yet another local connection… I knew he’d moved to Miami, but I didn’t realized he’s at 10 Design now. Looks like they’ve got multiple Triangle locals on the team there. Thanks for posting… there are some sweet physical model photos in there too.

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I’m beyond ecstatic about the stadium being over on the eastern perimeter of the project next to Wilmington. Because that puts it that much closer to the Norfolk Southern line if/when a South Raleigh regional rail stop could be penciled in.

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Also concrete is not green at all. Manufacturing and curing is a huge source of CO2 to the atmosphere.

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I’m super excited about this. I especially love how they are integrating the greenway system through the project. I feel like the park area could be a really special oasis.

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