I think he’s saying that most of the proposals called for 40 or higher story buildings. The city would easily approve a PD rezoning for this property for the right proposal.
Hopefully this property only has underground parking and no parking diaper.
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Doubt anyone has submitted a proposal yet. At this point it would just be very very preliminary “interest”. Process hasn’t even officially started yet.
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Correct. My understanding is that the city got a lot of “phone calls” but formal submissions had not occurred but based on my conversation, it seemed plausible the city received some “high level” proposals.
Regarding the height, I was verbally told this was the requirement…but I haven’t seen anything in writing.
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Does anyone happen to know if the city would ever sale the block right in front of the Duke Energy for the Performing Arts Center? It would prove interesting?
Right next to these:
Bigger picture:
No need to sell the plaza. Nice park area and open space for south end of downtown and helps maintain the grand entrance feel for DECPA. Plenty of other parcels for development.
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Maybe “sale” is not right idea/word? However, maybe “better-utilize”?
Or at the very least a MUCH better water feature? 
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Other parcels could include some of those Shaw parcels one day. If the interest proves to be high with the 2 city owned parcels, to me it would be a no brainer to explore selling some land. I guess time will tell…
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Anyone else get @John South Park clip every time you open this thread via mobile ?
Anyone know how to block/mute a specific post?
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I will delete it. That’s weird that the clip audio overrides everytime you open!
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Ty. The whole clip pops up and I’m ready to strangle Mr Hat at this point. 
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Nice pictures. Raleigh Crossing crane seems to sneak into every picture taken in downtown. Lol
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What did they do, exactly? Any word on what’s going in the old Cafe Carolina space?
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I hope something that will drive people in. IMO the redo of that plaza missed the mark. Looks kinda simple and cold.
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Just updated the aesthetics of the plaza. More metal, swinging seats, etc… There is currently no renovation going on in the old Cafe Carolina space.
Need more people other than office workers on Fayetteville st. Hotels will help a lot. Nice hotels with open outdoor areas that spill on the street activate these semi dead zones. Seen it in action in small cities like Chattanooga, and it works.
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I like the cigarette statues! 
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Hopefully whatever takes over the Carolina Cafe space jazzes it up a little. Just needs some greenery, lighting, and thoughtful decor.
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It really does just look bare bones. You are right that some greenery & decor (Like painting that neighboring wall) would do wonders.
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