Five Points, East End Market, & Raleigh Iron Works

It already has. It was most recently deferred to a GNR study.

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I’m fine with the process being a little slow… If the developer’s want to move more quickly they can build to current zoning … we’ll see how the new council handles such matters. Maybe the process could be a little more streamlined if the city was able to govern itself in a manner which it sees is as most beneficial to its citizens.
I think we have a fundamental disagreement about the utility of zoning and rezoning that we’re probably not going to resolve over posts back and forth and I fear we’ve veered off topic. If you want to keep arguing over what you believe zoning/rezoning should entail, you are free to DM me. I’m always willing to entertain differing perspectives from my own.

What do you mean “that’s not a vote, but whatever”? It was supposed to be voted on and they created more hurdles, that shouldn’t have existed. Again, the game.

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This summarizes my thoughts. I want a comprehensive plan and process for achieving it. I also think AF needs to be along transit corridors because cars are expensive to own an operate.

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They are ‘choosing’ to do it because of the current city council’s social experiments and they feel this is how they can get anything approved. A ‘prudent business decision’ is to maximize ROI…period. What they are doing is pandering to politicians who have no concept of business or real estate finance. Otherwise, they feel they will never get anything approved. Why would you sell something for $1.00 when you could sell just as many units for $3.00?..politics, not prudent business decisions.

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Build to current zoning then. They are asking for something and the city is asking that in exchange for that the my developers help they city address some concerns.

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That makes no sense as most everybody here would agree that the current zoning in downtown Raleigh is awful and too restrictive. A request for rezoning shouldn’t hold the developer hostage to the whims of the Town Council.

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My multiple posts were not arguing about fundamental opinions on rezoning. They were addressing your lack of knowledge of this particular case, of which you have already edited.

I only edited the “ok whatever” because it sounded too flip. I edited it to say that this is off topic and if you wanted to keep discussing this to take it out of the thread but apparently you ignored that.

https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2019/11/22/work-set-to-start-on-trendy-destination-in-raleigh.html

Atlas Stark is soon starting to renovate the property at 2020 Progress Court (just west of Lynnwood Brewing). East End Market at 65,000 sq ft will feature mixed use including “Common Desk” co working space. Anticipated opening fall 2020.

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Looks like this is different from the massive Iron Works project, which I’m still eagerly awaiting an update on. Hoping that project isn’t dead - would add not only a bunch of retail, restaurant, and office space - but also some residences resulting in some height to the area. I’m sure once this gets started, the Iron Works will have more incentive to get out the gate.

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This new ‘East End Market’ project is quite cool. It’s just 2.5 miles from the State Capital, so pretty close to downtown. They already have a tenant ‘Common Desk’, a coworking outfit, to snag 28K sqft.
A blurb:

“Raleigh and East End Market have all the traits we look for in the communities we choose for our coworking spaces,” says Nick Clark, CEO and Founder of Common Desk. “East End Market is going to be incredible for Raleigh and the dynamic new East End corridor, and we consider it the perfect choice for our first location outside of Texas.”

I like little infill projects like this. What I really, really want to see with these is improved pedestrian connection so that this can start to feel like a neighborhood/distinct, not a series of auto-oriented projects.

This is very close to the Loading Dock, but the area is extremely unfriendly to walking.

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Definitely needs an update on sidewalks, crosswalks, and some pedestrian bridges would be amazing in this area.

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Yes, I was just looking at the map and realizing there’s RR tracks between Dock 1053 and this development

The Peden Steel development is still active btw :slight_smile:

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Heard the other day Raleigh Center Ice on Hodges between Wake Forest Rd & Atlantic will cease operations later in 2020 as the Canes move their practice facility to the Wake Competition Center (announcement on that tomorrow.)
Once it’s closed the plan is to redevelop the site but plans on that still seem to be sketchy.

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Big plans possibly are coming to that whole area you didn’t hear it from me but Kane and Grubb investments are talking to property owners in that area for a possible large scale master plan development.

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Could be some big development coming to this area between Snoopys and Dock 1053. Developer holding a meeting on Thursday in Five Points to discuss rezoning plans for a PD district.

Plans:

  • Two seven-story residential apartment buildings
  • One three-story apartment building
  • One six-story office building
  • One 12-story office building
  • One existing one-story office building
  • One new one-story retail building

Saw this on the “East End Market” project developer’s website (looking north from Whitaker Mill Rd down Progress Ct:

The 12-story building seems to have Nextdoor up in arms. :expressionless:

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Can you send the link please?