Future of Glenwood South

I’m glad it’s not gonna keep sitting empty, but completely agree with your thoughts.

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New Lambouche-tasticness…As if GloSo needs to Devolve further, LoLs…

A 300+ capacity bar… on the already oversaturated bar scene of Glenwood South? Oh it most certainly will still be sitting empty most of the time lmaooooo

Or, if it’s actually good at attracting its target audience, it’ll suck business away from the crappy bars this board loves to hate and forces them to change their model.

“A rising (red) tide floats all boats”

Apparently it does. Sheesh.
It was already ridiculous, and it’s only going to get worse.
The neighborhood needs more balance, not more bars.

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Need more condos for long term residents like John who actually care about the neighborhood. Apartments bring in residents, but I still think it brings a temporary mindset. Obviously there are apartment dwellers on this forum, no disrespect.

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Renter here, and no disrespect taken. We definitely need more options for permanent homeownership in/around the downtown area!!! :100:

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Pulling this right out of the city manager’s update.

The Glenwood South corridor is unique to Raleigh and is experiencing renewed development interest contributing significantly to the downtown growth trend. This trend was evident even back in December of 1997, when the City Council adopted the Glenwood South Small Area Plan and authorized staff to prepare a streetscape and parking plan for the Glenwood Avenue commercial area. The goals of the Streetscape Plan were to create a coordinated streetscape concept, recommend parking improvements and to fine tune code standards necessary to support a pedestrian oriented urban development pattern.

The Glenwood South streetscape plan was initially adopted in 2000 and amended in 2008 and 2009, to address off-street parking requirements and maximum building heights. The plan boundary included Hillsborough Street to the south, Peace Street to the north, Boylan Avenue to the west and Capital Boulevard to the east. A participatory planning process involved local business and property owners in the identification of streetscape improvements and the coordination of parking to support business investment. The main objective was to emphasize the unique identity of the area as an urban entertainment and business destination within the downtown region. To support continued development investment in the area and an efficient urban pattern, the plan included improvements to the pedestrian environment and connections to adjacent employment centers, transit stops, and parking. A link to the original Glenwood South Streetscape Plan is provided below.

https://cityofraleigh0drupal.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/drupalprod/COR22/Glenwood_South_Streetscape_Plan.pdf

Almost two decades later, much of the recommendations of the plan have been implemented and contributes to the continuing success and vibrancy of this corridor. Overhead utility lines have been placed underground, parking streamlined, zoning regulations amended for new development pattern, sidewalk and streetscape elements established as redevelopment evolved.

With the evolution of downtown and emergence of other modes of transportation, there is an opportunity to conduct further analysis of the parking options, multimodal mobility connections, and other emerging impacts to the streetscape conditions along this corridor to ensure that it continues to serve the needs of the community as a safe, vibrant, and entertainment corridor in Raleigh.

Draft Scope of Work
The City Council has asked staff to develop a scope of work and cost estimate for a Glenwood South Area Study to include streetscape, traffic, parking, and safety as considered elements. The scope of work and costs considered by staff is described briefly here.
Glenwood South Area Study – Cost $250,000 - $500,000 (Based on scope)

Goals of the study are to:
• Create a new streetscape plan to guide decisions for enhancing the streetscape along Glenwood South corridor for future generations.
• Develop a unifying urban design language and streetscape plan for this section of the corridor incorporating many elements from the rebuild section.
• Create a more flexible and “useable” streetscape that allows for more opportunities for seating, gathering, festivals, and outdoor dining.
• Promote safe, healthy, and equitable mobility for all centered around Vision Zero.

Inventory and Analysis of existing conditions

Evaluate the existing streetscape conditions within the project area. Identify assets, opportunities and challenges that relate to multimodal access and use of the corridor, with special emphasis on the pedestrian and curb zones. Scope could include the following:
• Confirm the boundary of the streetscape plan and any adjustments needed.
• Inventory will include typically repeating features, their dimensions, and the
measures in-between them.
o Presence, materials, and typical locations of street furnishings (benches,
light poles, traffic lights, bike racks, bike lockers, scooter parking, planter
pots, signage, parking, and other streetscape elements).
o Seat walls, planting areas, and tree grates.
o Utility boxes.
o Pedestrian paving and street curb measures and materials.
o Curb ramp dimensions, design, and materials.
o Plant material (typical street trees, groundcover, and potted plants).
o Predominant material and color of building façades on each block of Glenwood South Corridor.
• Develop draft recommendations for streetscape elements for different blocks of
the Glenwood South Corridor. The standards should try to build upon the
previous plan and achieve some level of uniformity and maintain the unique and
special entertainment character for the entire corridor.
o The document will include detailed construction details for each element
and furnishings, along with color and finishings. For each element more
than two material options will be provided. This will be used for material
specifications for future development proposals.
• Review all existing as-built plans for streetscape layouts and construction details.
• Evaluate the overall conditions related to traffic and safety within the project
area, and the anticipated effects to surrounding corridors. This would include:
o Analyze the existing context and challenges for all modes of
transportation.
o Work closely with other on-going studies to identify comprehensive
findings and provide aligned recommendations.
o Crash analysis.
o Mode counts (including vehicle, pedestrian, bikes, and scooters).
o Assess transit demand.
o Traffic operations analysis.
o Forecasting demand and any shifts related to future infrastructure
projects, such as NCDOT’s S-Line Rail Service project.
• Evaluate opportunities to improve:
o Sidewalk design and dimensions, street cross sections, ADA accessibility
and safe crossings, on-street parking, loading zones, street trees and
stormwater management, street lighting and building frontage lighting
requirements, transit stop location and design, public amenities including
seating and other furnishings.
• Evaluate moving the curb-line to widen the sidewalks to improve the pedestrian
experience.
• Evaluate the pros/cons of amending vehicular parking and circulation patterns.
• Right-of-way standards to guide redevelopment and future capital investments.
• Development of an implementation strategy to fund streetscape elements.
• Opportunities for short-term improvements and community-led placemaking.
• Project development - level costs for different elements.

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Absolutely ecstatic to hear about this and even more excited to see what they come up with. Play our cards right and this could be the best street in the state.

I still want them to bring back the Glenwood streetcar, but, that’s probably a little out of the scope of this study :slightly_smiling_face:

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20 story rezoning of 301 Glenwood Ave. and 617 W. North St. approved. This is the large surface lot and strip mall that includes Plates and Sushi Blues. Hibernia Irish Pub not included.

No timeline yet on when redevelopment will happen and what that might include.

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My dentist is in that building and I love Thaiphoon so this hits close to home. Hopefully they build something, and it has plenty of smaller retail spots.

:pray: good - that building adds a ton of character to the street level experience. The recessed Sushi Blues building does not, and I look forward to seeing a new tower there. Hopefully the handful of businesses there can relocate nearby soon.

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While I fully support adding height to Glenwood South, I agree that stepping back/opening corners like this one especially contributes to more comfortable human centric urban experience. Where those corners contribute something architecturally and culturally, all the better.

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London already has the ideal model:

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How long ago was it that they converted the parking lot in front of Sushi Blues into a patio? Can’t have been more than 10 years, or am I just that old?

There are some expansive patios on Glenwood South and it definitely makes for a lively atmosphere. For all the sour grapes over the specific environment at Cornerstone, I hope that some of that outdoor nightlife can be carried over as the area continues to build up.

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From July, 2011.

https://dtraleigh.com/2011/07/parking-cleared-for-outdoor-seating-on-glenwood-south-cars-wimper-while-driving-by/

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Well, there you go; you are getting old. It has been more than 10 years. :wink:

I think this is an unpopular take on this board, but I love cornerstone.

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I didn’t know that you’re a current State underclassman! :wink: