Highwoods : specializing in recycling dashed dreams
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Do they hate Raleigh some of our own wrst enemies are here. I simply donât understand 121 Fayetteville why did scrap it, they shouldve torn down the garage so they could build it. There was no excuse to cancel it. That why we should ban garages downtown and just do street-level parking. It would help downtown a lot.
At this point any progress is good.
We dodged a bullet with 121 Fayett. IMHO
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How? Please I want to know.
Not attractive, banal design, too tall too close to Union Sq. New and big does not equal good. Like I said, thats my thoughts on it. I am excited for this project, the Creamery has/had good design, and a great location. As with the Nexus project, better to get these projects right rather than right now.
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Why would it be bad to be tall and close to Union Square?
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I want to be able to look out from the squares and not just up. I believe that the buildings should rise in elevation the further they are from the squares so you donât get the square in a hole phenomenon. (or step down as they get closer to the square). Union, as our most important symbolic square, is particularly important to me. Its about scale, light, sight and yes those dreaded shadows. As an unprofessional urban planning hack, I doubt there is theory behind this, just my own gut feeling.
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I agree with all points except âtoo tallâ - Fayetteville St is literally THE place for our tallest buildings, if anywhere. However, I absolutely agree with you about the design. I was not looking forward to a 40 story building that was half actual building⌠and half GIANT BLANK WALL of parking deck. Absolutely horrid lmao.
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SoâŚthe approximate height of this (The Edge) would be in the 250â-300â foot range?
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No, because itâs a completely hypothetical building that doesnât and will not ever exist LMAO 
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So in your last post you said that small business is bad for downtown and now you are saying that we should only allow surface lots. I donât know what to sayâŚthis is brilliant.
Understand. I disagree but thatâs just my opinion. The argument against that is that there is already a 400 ft building right across the street that will cast the same shadows. And since our Capital building is so close to our city center, if we want tall buildings, options are limited.
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TBJ reporting this project has been ârestartedâ with a little more information including an anticipated start date of mid-2024.
A utilities pre-payment is blamed for the delay in starting but Turnbridge says they have their permits now.
Only the 32-story resi tower will be built initially given some financial changes from the initial plan. They hope to start the 20-story office tower upon the 32-story tower completion but the office market will dictate that at that time.
âWeâve re-evaluated how to build the project in light of changes to the market that weâve seen over the last year. Thereâs been a decent amount of redesign, to be able to break the project apart and phase it the way we are,â (Jason) Davis said.
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Also noted:
The office tower will be called 404 Glenwood and slightly more office space will be built.
The 36-story residential tower will be named âHighline Glenwoodâ and âwill have 299 units instead of 261.â
Maybe we should finally update the title of this thread?
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If I read that correctly itâs 8.5 floors of parking and 11 floors of office. Does anyone know how the economics of parking works for the developers? I know they think they have to have it as table stakes for people to sign a lease, but my assumption is that even if they are monetizing these spots in some way it is scraps compares what a built out leased floor would generate.
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32 stories on Glenwood South is going look massive from the street level.
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Thatâs also the parking for the residential tower, looking at the (very cool) renderings.
EDIT: though given the staged construction that canât be right. Nevermind!