Highline Glenwood and 404 Glenwood at The Creamery

GOD. Still with the monstrous GIGANTIC BLANK BOX of parking deck as a pedestal for the squat office building. At least they say only the 32-story residential will be built to start. I’d be fine if that P.O.S. office parking pedestal NEVER gets built lmao. At least the tower seems to go all the way to the damn street, with a separated (smaller) deck hidden between it and the train tracks. That, itself, is just fine.

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36 stories still! I forgot it was 36 stories and not 32. Move over, the Eastern in North Hills.

These threads need like pinned “known details” post so we don’t forget or keep asking the same information.

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Am I looking at this right, this might be the second tallest building in Raleigh?

ASR-0083-2021

Residential Tower 1st floor will be at 302 feet about sea level with the site average grade at 299 feet above sea level.

The height listed height is 708 feet above sea level.

406 feet difference.

However this does not factor in the decorative crown on top.

Does the decorative crown on top count? If so will it be over 429 feet to surpass Two Hannover as the second tallest building in Raleigh? The decorative crown just needs to be over 24 feet tall to beat it.

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I can already feel the shadows over here near Oakwood.

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Yes, crowns/antennas always count towards overall height. There’s usually two categories; overall (architectural) height, and “roof” height aka the top of the actual occupiable building itself. For instance: One World Trade Center (the tallest in the US) has an architectural height of 1,776 ft (yes, symbolically on purpose haha) but a roof height of “just” 1,368 ft. There are actually a couple buildings in the US that surpass its roof height, but the spire is what makes it the official tallest in the country (which actually measures 1,792 ft to the very tip, but for some reason some of it isn’t counted in architectural height).

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There’s “architectural” spires, which count for height, and purely functional antennas, which don’t. A bit silly, but also the reason people don’t say that cell phone tower in North Dakota is the tallest building in North America.

The definition of what counts as an architectural spire can be pretty shaky, though - the Wilshere Grand in LA is an obvious cheat to get over 1000 feet tall.

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You can bookmark a post so you can search it later. I do that with things like ASRs, construction cams, renderings, etc. that I want to be able to go back to. I’m not great at doing it, but it works when I do. It would be nice to have certain posts just pinned as you said for the forum as a whole, but for now you can use bookmarks individually which works quite well.

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TBJ mentions there’ll be a 9th floor skylounge as part of the development. I imagine they’ll have a birds eye view of all the GS shenanigans from up there :laughing:

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The pool deck / amenity area is at the southeast corner so it’ll face toward downtown.

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The crown is what ive been looking for in most buildings.

Well in that case, perfect viewing for all the future 'Canes and Wolfpack championship parades

:hurricanes: :tuffy:

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Is the woonerf still happening???

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Really hope this happens. With the development of more height going on NW downtown, this should help stretch the skyline in that direction and encourage more development between here and Fayetteville St.

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We need more spires downtown maybe the next one should have a shape of an oak tree.

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Funny - so that extra, unaccounted 16 feet to the very tip of One World Trade Center must be the purely functional antenna! Thanks for the added insight!

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Yes.

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NINE (9!) retail spaces!!! In addition to The Creamery’s existing spaces. LOVE IT!

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Highline
Rusbus
Capital Square
Vela
Nash Square
Legends block

Residential will change the skyline. Bring it on!

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If this project happens with that alleyway full of retail, and Smoky Hollow fills in all retail and programming, this tips Glenwood South into a different arena of urbanism IMO. The next step is to convert Glenwood into a linear park with only automobile crossings at the cross streets (or motorized bollards and raised blocks in between side streets)

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Yes the best alternative to office shit Austin’s tallest buildings is residential.

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