Hillsborough Street Mixed Use Projects Near NC State

Blue books were under siege, particularly coming out of Covid. The English department, of which I share a building with, went all electronic submissions. I hate grading electronically. Truly hate it. So I resisted. Then here comes AI and everyone is like oh no, what do we do??? And I just saunter by with my blue books with out a care in the world. Since this is the near NC State page, I don’t think we are too off topic. :slight_smile:

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It’s a passive income for the church. Saw an article a while back about wanting to “preserve its character” i.e. a space for small businesses. It is very underwhelming along with CBC considering its proximity to State, but it will remain as is until its value reaches a point where they can’t resist selling it.

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Or they have more pedophile sexual assault cases to hush up and need the money.

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In 73, the team went undefeated but ineligible for the tourney due to being on probation for a recruiting violation.

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Indeed. I got to ride in the red Cadillac convertible a booster gave to DT, which I believe was part of the recruiting violation.

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Then it was all worth it!

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This appears to have flown under the radar, but the infamous CityPlat landmark on Hillsborough St. seems to be moving again. A new revised design from December removes the rooftop dining area and keeps it as a one-story restaurant/retail space. There has also been some updates/activity within the last week on the project page.

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I mean, of course I wish they utilized the space more than one story, but I’m just glad something is moving forward. I honestly don’t mind the design they’re going with either, for a 1-story building.

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Long time waiting to go back to essentially the format of what was there. I am happy there is at least movement. This has been an eyesore for well over a decade.

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1 storefront section for 2 Guys, and the other for Brothers.

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To copy/paste a comment I made yesterday on a completely different topic: This is some CLASSIC Raleigh shit if I ever heard it!! :rofl:

Step 1: buy 1-story building that houses 2 retail/restaurant businesses
Step 2: request and recieve 12-story rezoning (nice!)
Step 3: demo the building, put up a huge crane, start building the concrete base of new building
Step 4: STOP!!! :hand_with_fingers_splayed: :stop_sign: :police_car_light:
Step 5: Don’t do anything. Let it sit there for a while. Do nothing.
Step 6. Eventually abandon your plans, remove the crane, and get the F outta dodge!
Step 7: Sell the land to a Money Laundering scheme- I mean Local “developer”
Step 8: As the new developer, also do nothing!!!
Step 9: Wait 10 god forsaken years or so.
Step 10: Rebuild a 1-story building for 2 new retail/restaurant businesses.

Voila. Genius at work, folks!!!

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Somewhere in between steps 3 and 7 is ‘people sue each other’.

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I’m glad to see something moving there, but this is so disappointing. Similar to Canes - I’m glad something went in the old movie theater space - but I wish it was something more exciting than fast food fried chicken.

I hope someone can target a bar to fit in one of these one-level spaces. Still think there’s a big opportunity there with East Village gone for 6 years now and Mitch’s still the closest thing to Doak Field for baseball games.

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Still has the rooftop patio and seating, just no bar or restaurant up there.

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This is such an eyesore that anything would be a major improvement.

Also maybe unpopular here but this part of Hillsborough should stay 1-2 story buildings. Plenty of density coming on either end and nearby behind, I like to keep some soul here instead of more Stanhopes/Standards.

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Nothing should be 1 floor on Hillsborough and having fewer floors has nothing to do with the amount of “soul” a building has. I agree Stanhope has a menacing vibe but it’s the architecture and the width, not the height.

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This is the one part of Raleigh that has a truly college town feel. It’s not central to downtown so I don’t see density being that important. It contributes to having distinct districts in the city with different vibes.

If you knock down the stretch from Insomnia to Starbucks (I think which is dead), then how is this any different to how areas of North Hills feel.

Not every rezoning/plan has to be 12 stories. Some things can be shorter and just as useful.

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How thoughtless of me to fail to consider the historic value of the concrete scaffold. I know it has been around long enough to become a beloved landmark at this point.

If you knock down the stretch from Insomnia to Starbucks (I think which is dead), then how is this any different to how areas of North Hills feel.

Nobody is proposing anything close to that. I think we all want to keep the historic character of the neighborhood and have smaller lots. As I said before the problem is not the height but the big monoblock buildings. I think the best pragmatic way to protect the historic structures on this stretch is to get more density out of the empty lots that are there.

As someone who went to NC State, I’d really appreciate more housing within walking distance of campus. A lot of stuff built in that area has been geared towards students and I’d like to see more get built for the tens of thousands of employees associated with the school. Many of those people currently live on Avant Ferry and it is a socially dead place, a food desert, and highly car dependent, while also having the highest residential density in the city. Every dead lot and underbuilt project on Hillsborough St is a stab to the heart when I look at it.

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Grub Kitty erasure

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