Sure. You’d say that. As a resident who lives in two towns and wants GlenSo to evolve.
But the truth is…the ruffians pay, at least a portion of , the bills.
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Glenwood South’s residents are what brought Publix and Smoky Hollow to downtown. Residents and businesses in the district make hospitality businesses beyond the “spring break bars” viable. Hotels opening up are not catering to the weekend party crowd.
I am glad to see that you have tempered your initial assertion to “at least a portion of”. I agree that it’s a part of the ecosystem, but it didn’t start the ecosystem, and it isn’t solely responsible for the district’s long term viability.
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I’d be curious to see the data for where the Publix customer comes from - no doubt GlenSo residents benefit and I hope eventually, that is where it finds its profitability. We all benefit from the bet Mr Kane and Co made on SmoHo. I also hope the district continues to diversify how it gets its bread buttered…
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New story on this topic, and they begrudgingly added the last line of the article:
“Currently, the tallest building in Raleigh is the 32-story PNC Plaza downtown.” 
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It was pretty common knowledge over the many years that DT wanted a major grocer to make the move to/open a location downtown, and that would be enabled by more residents to justify it. It didn’t help downtown’s efforts that CV (now VD) was just down Peace St. with a large Harris Teeter. It just makes sense that grocers aren’t going to open in locations where there isn’t a reasonably available customer base.
Certainly Kane helped those numbers by bringing several hundred residential units with the completion of both Peace and The Line @ Smoky Hollow.
I’ll see if I can find any archived articles to back this up, but as a long term DT resident, I remember seeing these sorts of stories/narratives over the years.
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Whether in DT or Midtown, people do need to learn two things:
- Floor count alone does not determine the height of a building
- Not all 40 story rezonings will result in 40 story buildings
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I think we’d be pretty safe to assume that no building in NH will be actual 40 stories. Probably 35-36 max. It’s so funny how things are worded and skewed. People not on here probably think we’re on the cusp of having 5 40 story towers in downtown next year! Haha
But isn’t the Nexus block also targeting a downtown grocer too? Thinking that one would be a Whole Foods based on the development type and what I’ve seen in similar downtown developments.
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I hadn’t heard about a grocer at Nexus, but that would be terrific! I would have guessed that a grocer would first appear a bit east of there, but that works too.
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Has anyone heard anything on Nexus, or as I call it “the most important block in downtown.”
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This is obviously 2 years old now but has a ground floor full size grocery https://www.foundrycommercial.com/core/fileparse.php/2530/urlt/Nexus_Foundry_Flyer.pdf
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I live in Garner and I go to the Publix downtown to shop all the time!
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They’re currently requesting a 40-story rezoning. Not sure what the latest development plans are.
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From the neighborhood meeting it sounded like they wanted a similar concept as before just with flexibility for more height.
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That would be a dream come true - I love the initial layout with the extremely mixed uses and pedestrian plaza. That exact layout and even building designs but twice the height would be an absolute game changer for this city.
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I wonder if they actually had a grocer in the hopper or if they were just wanting a grocer there?
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A citizenM hotel would be great for the Nexus development in my opinion.
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Almost stayed at citizenM in Boston (opted for Staypineapple instead, we go in November). Looked pretty cool, and I loved that it was on top of the Garden and North Station. Might consider it again on our next visit.
Raleigh needs more boutique-esque hotels and chains. I think that’s why I’m so bummed about the new Hilton looking so… generic. That’s also why I’m such a big fan of Longleaf. Sadly, I think it’d be hard for Raleigh to ever get anything like an Ace or a Hoxton… they seem to prefer old high rises and updating them, and we don’t have too many of those. Raleigh probably isn’t trendy enough for either of those anyway (at least, not yet). That being said, Wilmington has this newer chain called ARRIVE that looks pretty cool. Maybe we could swing something like that?
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We stayed at The Graduate last time we were back in Oxford Miss (we are both alumn’s). It was a new build, though they tend to like to renovate older buildings, and they like to be close to campuses too. But it was a very nice experience, just off the square in downtown. They’d be a great addition to DTR. By the way, if you want a awesome college town experience, I highly recommend Oxford - fantastic food, very walkable, and one of the prettiest college campuses in the country.
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Wife and I stayed at Arrive a couple of years ago. Loved it. They’re renovating at the moment, but I’d go back in a heartbeat
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Curious would the Nexus lot be big enough for a hockey stadium?
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