Looks like a result of more housing supply. Keep those apartments coming.
Probably wouldn’t be my first choice. I’d probably choose to be closer to GWS since there’s a grocery store there. DGX has some groceries I guess.
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After further investigation think these Skyhouse “starting at” rates are teaser units. First eight floors on the south side of the building have parking deck views instead of the horizon views the upper floors enjoy and are differentially priced.
As for the bad reviews, Kane management has been atrocious. Not the living experience it used to be and the vacancies are well earned.
DGX is a handy corner store but not the grocery store option that the Warehouse district and Glenwood South enjoy.
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Kane does not own Skyhouse. Just replaced Ram for the property management function.
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Yep, I just realized that and deleted my comment lol. 
YOU LOVE TO SEE IT! This will happen with more “older” (meaning not brand new) apartment buildings as the now brand new ones are opening up. Rent may not “go down” across the board in Raleigh, but it can begin to stabilize. Very much a good thing.
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Is both not an option? We have two Subways within a block of each other. I think this side of town could definitely support a Char-Grill. There’s actually not a great place to get a quick burger in the area (unless you count McDonalds, which I don’t).
Not sure if you had Square Burger, but it was below average. It also usually took forever for them to make your food. I think a burger concept would absolutely crush it here, but they’d need to be both good and fast. Things that Square Burger seriously lacked in.
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DGX is just not a grocery store. Good for quick snacks, but I know a lot of people in the area avoid it because there are a ton of panhandlers that hang around the outside of the store. They’ve recently gotten security in the building, but the damage is done in terms of perception for a lot of the local residents.
The Moore Square East development is slated to have a grocery store, and the area desperately needs one with all the residents coming to the area.
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Do we know the new vendor?
I’m seeing the same thing in Durham for the first time ever – rents dropped this year at a couple places! Prices for some units at The Atlas (which is one of the newest buildings) are $400 lower than they were a year ago, and basically identical to the preleasing rates pre-pandemic. Looking forward to more of this so all the people bemoaning all the new apartments start to understand that vacancies are in our interest
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Well, what do you know? More supply makes our downtowns more affordable. Who would have guessed? 
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All of Kane and son’s current developments are really going to change the market and help to decrease housing costs even further in a few years.
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A bit confused here.
The dates for this RFQ were highlighted as follows:
- Pre-Submittal Conference - Jan 17
- Submittal Due Date and Time - Feb. 9
- Selection Announcement (tentative) - March 8
However, now they’re having an open house for prospective partners. Specifically, it says:
Join us for an Open House on Monday, March 18 from 11 a.m. - 1 p.m. This event is open to all parties interested in viewing and/or providing feedback on the space before the City of Raleigh posts an RFQ to identify an operator. - Moore Square Café Open House | Raleighnc.gov
So, was the RFQ submitted, or wasn’t it? Did they not get enough applicants originally or did they pull it?
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Char Grill in the park would be amazing!
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Will be interesting to see if anyone actually submits, given the homeless issues, loitering & the N. Raleigh churches that show up to feed them in the park regularly.
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This would be my dream and my nightmare.
So the whole park smells like charcoal and beef?? Walking by it on Hillsborough, fine. In a green space? I’m good lmao
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Must finally be my time to shine then 
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Recently, the city’s mentioned they are planning on spending about $1 million to improve this area and Fayetteville Street, and one idea is to add a permanent dog park in Moore Square. I live really close, just a block and a half away, and walk through there a lot. So, I wanted to share some ideas that I’ve thought about that might make the space even nicer.
I’m all for making Moore Square more comfortable for everyone. Some folks worry that making it nicer might attract more homeless people. I think the idea of making a place less welcoming on purpose isn’t the right approach. We can find better ways to manage the space that’s fair to everyone.
Some of these ideas are more about regulation than about spending ideas, but I think they’re incredibly fair if we want this to be a vibrant space:
1. Permanent Dog Park Upgrade
- Objective: Upgrade the temporary dog park to a permanent facility with enhanced amenities.
- Key Benefits: Fosters a pet-friendly community and ensures a safe, engaging space for dogs and their owners.
- Thoughts: Agreed with Mary-Anne Baldwin here. The current set-up was temporary and was a good proof of concept. We need a modern dog park with modern amenities. I’ll add that I’ve noticed some concerns about the use of the current space. I think a new, clean, and modern space would resolve a lot of those issues. This leads me to my next point
2. Enhanced Use of Mulched and Shaded Areas
- Objective: Transform mulched areas under natural shade into usable green spaces.
- Key Benefits: Increases available green space for leisure, improving the park’s aesthetics and environmental quality.
- Thoughts: I’ll add a picture at the end of this, and I’m not sure how many people notice this, but over 50% of Moore Square is unusable. And, it’s the only currently shaded part. It makes no sense to me. Especially in the summers, nobody wants to sit in the middle of the grass with no shade. Put some grass or do something with the unused space. Right now, it’s fenced off with a tiny fence. Let’s open it up from the sidewalks and let’s fucking use it. I think one of the reasons this might be done is to protect the trees. Instead of putting a gigantic fence around the entirety of the mulched area, why don’t we just put a fend around the trees and open the park up from the sidewalk? It would make that area so so so much better.
3. Innovative Shade Solutions
- Objective: Introduce various shade solutions to provide relief from the sun.
- Key Benefits: Makes the park more comfortable and accessible during hot weather, enhancing the overall park experience.
- Thoughts: Like Fayetteville Street, there is a strong lack of shade in the current usable spaces. The previous idea addressed the shade that is currently there. We need to make this space comfortable.
4. Regulate Use of Space
- Objective: Regulating the storage of personal belongings.
- Key Benefits: Ensures the park remains accessible, clean, and welcoming for all visitors.
- Thoughts: Walking through Moore Square this morning in search of a reading spot, I noticed many using the space to store personal belongings, with entire benches occupied by suitcases and bags. We could offer solutions, like storage lockers, to help manage this. Moore Square is meant for spending time, not for storing things.
5. Enforce Park Hours
- Objective: Define and enforce operating hours to discourage overnight use.
- Key Benefits: Enhances safety and allows for maintenance, preserving the park’s facilities and green spaces.
- Thoughts: I don’t have an issue with the park being used for ingress and egress. But, loitering after-hours (after 11:00 PM) shouldn’t be allowed. There are already signs that say this, it just isn’t enforced. As mentioned before, Moore Square should not be used as a shelter or a place to set up camp.
Ultimately, the idea is to make the space more comfortable and implement regulations that would prevent the added comfort from being abused. I know many of these thoughts may be controversial, but I think this makes the space better for everyone that wants to use it for the purpose the park was originally intended for. Let me know your thoughts here. Ultimately, some of these would cost money, others would require enforcement.
Not sure if this is the place to do this, but since this is being discussed by the council, I’m tagging @anon8787296 for visibility.
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Love these. Make it more comfortable to spend time in, but uncomfortable/impossible to literally camp out in.
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Wow, I’ve never thought about the amount of space at Moore square that is essentially roped off.
No offense to my professional homies out there, but that was a really dumb design decision. Compared to moore square as it existed before the renovation, the consultants/designers actually reduced the amount of public green space available to the citizens of downtown Raleigh
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