Count me among the people who very rarely go to a mall at all. What might take me to Crabtree is the need to visit the Apple Store, or maybe a huge Belk sale on the Biltmore Hotel Collection sheets that I put on my bed (totally worth it when on deep sale). Other than that, I would go to Crabtree to eat at a restaurant if my extended family had plans and I was invited to join. Other than that, I rarely go to malls at all.
That all said, count me among those who don’t like the interior of Southpoint. I think it tries too hard to be “authentic” and comes off as Disneyesque to me. Who knew that after years and years of telling Raleigh that it was less urban and authentic, Durham would flex their suburban mall credentials?
NHID/ Standard Beer and Food. There’s some pretty heavy equipment down by the creek. I think they’re doing the riparian restoration work. And some pics of Standard’s patio, seemingly near completion
Went to the mall and found that it looks like they found someone to take over the Forever 21 spot. Was not expecting the return. Don’t call it a comeback.
After walking around when it’s dark outside, it does feel like it could use additional lighting. I’m not sure if that’s why they opted to increase the lighting.
Hard to tell from this pic, but in real life it still seems like there might be one to connect Maker’s Alley to Standard coming. They have the ends built but nothing in the middle yet. I guess we’ll see.
“it still seems like there might be one to connect Maker’s Alley to Standard coming. They have the ends built but nothing in the middle yet. I guess we’ll see.”
The original rendersing show a bridge here so hopefully it will happen,.
it’s pretty much exactly that tho, an alley with small spaces run by local “makers.” they are doing what they can to highlight and support small business, including, i believe, with some rent incentives.
say what you will about the developers, but not many others are doing it the way they are.
this is interesting because it seems by doing that the mall is marketing to an out-of-town crowd. in raleigh we have crabtree everything, creek, lake, greenway, trail, boulevard, mall. to just say crabtree would need more context.
but in durham, “let’s go to crabtree” probably only means one thing.
Not sure if someone’s already posted this, or if this is the right thread - but Kane has sold the Park Central apartments in North Hills. Makes me wonder if they’re freeing up capital for another upcoming project. If so, I’m curious which one they’re gearing up for
Zero chance anything in Cary that starts out as Fenton becomes anything resembling TTC, even with trailer parks 2 miles away from Fenton. East Chatham @ Maynard is the only “affordable housing” area in Cary anymore, and with it comes some of the most amazing random international restaurant cuisines: Himalayan Nepali, Indian, Mexican, Chinese, Brazilian, Salvadoran, etc. all in or near Chatham Square.
The worst shopping center area in Cary (South Hills, from the 19) is being remade by Loden Properties (chosen to do whatever we’re doing in Moore Square lately). That South Hills project is readjusting to lay out without having the Cary sports complex, since that bond referendum didn’t pass last year. The Cary Town Center Mall will go to a developer that the town council will wait as long as it takes to find someone who will get it right. Epic Games doesn’t want it anymore, and the longer it sits, the more it grows in value as Fenton gets more and more popular. Town Council will likely be very selective about what they approve to go on site of the former mall, and I still wouldn’t rule out a stadium potential location for MLB or replacement for Wakemed soccer park to locate here.
My recall is that TTC was built right at was once the “beginning” of 540 and there was great expectation that much of the developable land nearby and to its north would transform in the early 2000’s to quite the glamorous neighborhoods with golf courses and estate homes. While there is a little of that up by Falls Lake, overall that vision just did NOT come to pass, and we have basically the worst of what reminds me of Fairfax VA come to life in the area of TTC now. Saks would bail if they didn’t own their building, and they still may yet pull the plug. Nordstrom is likely breathing a huge sigh of relief it went West to open at SouthPoint instead of North East to the hellscape of US 1 between 440 and 540 adjacent.
I don’t know if there’s enough retail space planned at Fenton to accomodate a department store, but they could likely redesign what is coming for Phases 2 and 3 if someone like Saks or Nordstrom wanted into Fenton. But its laughable to think of Fenton and Cary as destined for the fate of TTC.
I assume Grand Asia market is preparing to relocate to the former Harris Teeter they bought many years ago in West Raleigh (Buck Jones @ Jones Franklin @ Western Blvd, near Athens High School. At South Hills, the Northern Tool & Equipment store closed over the summer, and next to that is the empty-but-for-annual-Spirit-Halloween store. As long as the Bakers Dozen Donut place finds a home somewhere, I’ll be happy. We won’t See THEM at Fenton though!
