Summit Design & Engineering Services will be leasing 30K sqft on the 8th floor of 1000 Social
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Itās because you have good taste.
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Thank goodness the rezoning is complete, because the current council would send this to āgrowth and natural resourcesā to kill it
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Thatās right, I like people with that kind of taste.
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More reason to visit the Fenton. Iām excited for this sports bar, especially whenever they legalize sports gambling here in NC.
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Yeah that looks like a fun spot to spend a fall afternoon! Helps with our shortage of decent sports bars. Of course, if Iām drinking and watching a couple of football games, Iāll be factoring in an Uber there and back into my budgeting.
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Opening super bowl weekend, bold.
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I think once the food/beverage/shopping tenants have all moved in + the apartments got residences in them = Fenton will be quite popular place to be.
@CarnifeX I have a feeling one of the largest sports bars in the area (and NC) opening on one of the Holy Grail weekends of sports bars is probably by design if I had to take a guess.
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Iāll bet they would have preferred a little bit of practice, but I agree, this was the last target date all along. Excited to see it in action.
Side note, does Raleigh have a dearth of sports bars? Thereās 3 (maybe 4) I can think of downtown.
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Tobacco Road and Ale House are fine, but Iām not in love with either. This one looks seriously legit.
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Thatās a good question, Iām not sure what number of sports bars for an area is considered sufficient or lacking to be honest. Most likely it just depends on the part of Raleigh youāre in. Everywhere Iāve lived within Raleigh there were about 3-5 or so sports bars within a reasonable 10-15 minute drive. I live out in the Apex area now and thereās four I can think of off the top of my head within 10 or so minutes so maybe thatās the appropriate number of sports bars for an area?
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Soā¦ I drove past the Fenton development for the first time last night. Itās definitelyā¦ weird, just passing by at least. Like you get the idea that thereās a big mixed-used development in thereā¦ or maybe a new mall?. ā¦ ā¦ or a fancy new software companyās new āurbanā campus?? ā¦ but itās just so incredibly closed off from the outside world that it doesnāt seem to be inviting me to come explore as I drive by. Itās just f**king weird. I guess what Iām trying to say is that I really donāt like these closed-off fake ādowntownsā that are seemingly going to become the norm. Hoping the Midtown Exchange project doesnāt end up like this but not super optimistic about that. At least with North Hills, the Iron District and the nearby East End development, theyāre close enough to the main roads that you can actually see everything thatās going on inside these developmentsā¦ I donāt know, Iām just rambling here but the best I can say from my drive-by experience with Fenton last night is that itās just f%$king WEIRD.
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A fun standalone article - why are the lanes on Wake Forest north of the Beltline so obviously narrow?
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article270945732.html
(short answer, when they added two more lanes in the 80s, they repainted the road rather than widening it, making the lanes hair-raisingly tight)
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I always wondered about that! I avoid that road precisely because of the narrow lanes.
It seemed genius at the time!
One of buddies lived right behind the hospital there, so it was unavoidable for me. But I was young and driving a smallish car, so I rocked on.
Some of thatās the grade change. Some of thatās because of the way the Trinity Road intersection curves into the site, cutting off a big chunk of land in front thatāll be offices someday. (I wouldāve given it a tighter curve, but NCDOT likes its stroads.) But the #1 reason why it feels so far back is because it is ā itās nearly 1000 feet back from the road, so the closest part is further from the road than the furthest part of North Hills (or even Southpoint!). The choice spot up front was given to Wegmanāsā¦ which then backed out.
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That is dangerous for motorcyclists and bikers.
Not trying to change your preference against these inward facing āfake downtowns,ā and I know youāre not the only one on here that feels that way. But the idea really isnāt for it to look cool for people driving by (that area seems so empty anyways). Itās supposed to be a destination where you know you want to go there already, and park your car (or Uber there), and then can walk around. Iāve been over there a few timesā¦ super close to my houseā¦ and itās definitely starting to come together. The real thing will be when the apartments and offices fill up, and a few more of the unique retail spots open up. But even now, I feel like itās a pretty nice space. Iād recommend actually going over there and getting a drink, seeing a movie, etc. and seeing if you find stuff you like. Itās not gonna be a cool urban downtown, but itās a lot nicer than a mall like Crabtree Valley.
Still mad Wegmans pulled out.
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im not sure if a roundabout is worse for pedestrians or not. my folks have nearly been clobbered by right turners at spring forest and falls of neuse before and actually clobbered (knocked to the ground) at a metered crosswalk in reno with much less trafficā¦a doctor behind the wheel of all people. i would lean to just better flow in the 2nd option and perhaps some HI-VIS leds for peds crossing.
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I think Fenton has future promise. I do laugh when I see people compare it to North Hills. I do think itās overrated in some aspects for now. I have been to Fenton and think itās ok. I donāt think itād be someplace I would go to often, but only because I live closer to North Hills. In the future, if done right, I can see it turning into a well integrated development. If they finish development with more apartments/offices and are able to provide ped/bike infrastructure, youād have access to housing, shopping, jobs, grocery, elementary, middle, and high school, and Cary Medical Center all in less than a mile.
As far as the so called fake downtowns go, Iām ok with them. They show that dense mixed use developments are in demand. The cities arenāt able to keep up. While North Hills and Fenton are able to develop their units, the city is stuck arguing about about allowing townhomes.
My one complaint about North Hills is the biking infrastructure is severely lacking across Six Forks Rd. I do blame Main St on the Kane development, but Lassiter Mill on the city of Raleigh.
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