Soccer attendance seems to be really be dependent on stadium size. No wonder purpose built MLS stadiums with capacity of 18,000 max out at 18,000 while Atlanta and Charlotte are cranking in 30,000+ as those teams play in NFL facilities.
Bigger in this case does mean better (to a point).
Letâs be honest, for this stadium to thrive, it needs to not be soccer-based. Some tenants can still be soccer teams, but it needs to be thought up in mind of hosting a variety of events and the capacity should reflect that. If theyâre designing for soccer, yeah 20k is right. If theyâre designing for football or concerts, 60k is a good amount. If theyâre designing to host multiple conventions, a larger field would be best.
If a 60k seat stadium is built, it would need to be filled or at half the capacity regularly in order for the city to see enough revenue generated for maintenance, etcâŚ
Yup. Even the best of those NFL conversions arenât as good for the MLS viewing experience as a tight, packed soccer stadium like Portland or KC.
If you want a 60k stadium that hosts concerts, upgrade Carter-Finley.
Thereâs several disadvantages to C-F however. The stadium is 60 years old and would need a massive renovation to do so. The bowl is also one of the tightest in America, making it less suitable for events, and isnât set up in mind of hosting soccer at all in a permanent format. State is also the regulator and has the authority to deny events. NCSU is likely to refuse to host frequent events knowing how the field turned out after the U2 concert in 2011 and the stadium series this year
An interesting Twitter thread of large stadiums around the world that house teams that are not in top flight leagues.
Not listed but worth mentioning are the international stadiums like Wembley in London.
My dream is for the US Soccer to be based in Cary and they start to think they want their own soccer only international stadium. Based on no background but why wouldnât you want a permanent stadium that you can make your own instead of playing games in random football stadiums?
Win for Raleigh too because the vast majority of every game day will be people coming in for the game. You easily would have more tourism/hotel rooms/etc. than an MLS team would provide for about a quarter of the games.
A long shot but so is getting MLS at this point.
Because they can make way more money in larger stadiums and moving games around. US Soccer rarely does something for any other reason than money.
Do any modern leagues?
If youâve not see the History of the FA football on the Smithsonian Channel, it was was darn good. Its a good pairing with the insane series on Netflix about the World Cup.
There are exceptions. Playing in Columbus, OH for games vs. Mexico is for a strategic home field advantage, not to capitalize on ticket prices.
it was in Cincinnati this past qualifying.
This article feels like pablum so Iâll try to summarize to save a click.
Iâm amazed that Pittsburgh was not on this list given their good USL support, general fan malaise with the Pirates the last 3 decades, that theyâd have instant rivalries with Philadelphia, Columbus, and Cincinnati, and that theyâre in the Midwest and are held to a different standard than the south. It feels like Raleigh was late to the party and gets punished for it.
ACC basketball took a lot of crap this season for not being good, yet it has a final four participant while the SEC, Big12, Big10, and Pac12 donât.
Exactly why Conference USA and the Mountain West are the ACCâs equal and better than all those conferences, too!
It was pretty bad top-to-bottom, but Miamiâs an excellent team (says the sad Texas fan). Weird year all around.
When parity becomes parodyâŚLoLs
Too bad the league will not exist in 5 yearsâŚ
Hi, my real name is David Donovan and I look like the guy in my avatar and I work in the FNB building, and I will gladly, gladly bet you 100 real American dollars that the ACC does in fact continue to exist in five years.
David, I did not post the 5 year ACC information! That was Uncle Jesse.
He quoted his statement just below the picture of Lloyd Christmas.
Speaking of Lloyd⌠I finally saw Dumb and Dumber Too a couple days ago, wow that was awful. I find stupid comedy funny, but that wasnât funny at all. I was annoyed that I wasted my time watching the whole thing once it finished .
Literally the funniest thing about that movie was its joke title: âDumb and Dumber Toâ