Raleigh Stadium/Arena/Sports Discussions

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& Kotchekov. and 24-25 is 2 more full seasons away. Can you let them work on some contracts this offseason. Geez.

The rest of the context: ā€œā€¦ until the canes said they would match the QO within minutes.ā€ Yea they have said his extension this season is a top priority (a year early by the way). Dundon values value. Its worked well. He couldā€™ve blown up the team at the trade deadline and didnā€™t for the expressed reason for maintaining long-term success.

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A salty Sabres fan amongst us (jk Phil - Go Bills, as always)

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Not compared to the Canesā€™ previous ownerā€¦

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Iā€™m most interested to see if weā€™re going to bring Freddy back. Last couple of post seasons weā€™ve been undone by elite level goalkeeping in the playoffs. Dundon has shown heā€™s not afraid to let goalies walk recently.

Yeah, exactly. Dundon is a tightwad when it comes to marketing/broadcasting expenses, I agree with that. However, when it comes to player expenses, thereā€™s nothing Iā€™ve seen that says heā€™s going to cheap out when it comes to fielding a competitive team. Weā€™ve made the playoffs every year heā€™s been an owner.

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Dunden is ready to sign a long term lease if he gets development rights to the area around PNC, according to DeCockā€™s story in the N&O this morning. That requires ā€œapproval from more than a dozen stakeholdersā€¦ā€ The city & county are holding out for a long term lease before they commit tourist tax funds. Complicates for sure, but from the tone of the article it can get done. Dunden says he wants to stay.
A sports book in PNC will need new space, there is currentlt no room.
Tourist tax collections are running well ahead of post pandemic projections.
https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/nhl/carolina-hurricanes/article276004231.html

<Team owners name corrected, my bad. Thanks for pointing out the error @Brandonq >

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Dundon isnā€™t being quite as magnanimous as he says he is. He can sign a long-term lease right now. Heā€™s not because heā€™s extracting concessions from the authority, of course. They will foot the bill for the renovations AND give him carte blanche to make bank off the mixed-use district.

I mean, it beats some of the hostage taking weā€™re seeing from the Aā€™s in Las Vegas, to give one notable example. But itā€™s business and if Dundon doesnā€™t get exactly what he wants from the authority, theyā€™ll pull up stakes real quick.

Dundon putting his own money into developing the area into a full entertainment district seems like a good deal for some redevelopment of the arena by the city.

At the end of the day, he doesnā€™t own the arena, heā€™s just leasing it, so the fact that heā€™s willing to put any of his money into the area seems like a positive for me.

Feels like a no brainer for the Canes and Centennial authority so those should be yes votes, I would think the city will be on board to not risk losing the only major sports franchise. That just leaves NC State looming as the shareholder that could be the no vote. Hopefully they are not too short sighted and ignore the 12 RV owners with big money who use the parking lot 6 times a year.

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Weā€™re headed out there for the evening session tonight. Looking forward to seeing the complex super active!
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Thanks to @GucciLittlePig for the rocket ship Uber ride to the WakeMed Soccer facility ( :star: :star: :star: :star:) and weā€™re about to watch Wrexham AFC kick off their first match in the round of 16!

Shouldnā€™t be a shocker but Iā€™m fairly certain Wrexhamā€™s stars were nowhere near Cary. I didnā€™t recognize any of the players in uniform. And they lost 3-4 to a makeshift team from Illinois (I think).

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https://www.unchealthchampionship.com/rh/unchealthchampionship/

The Charlotte USA FC MLS team is promoting right now at London Bridge. They put those scarf things out on the chairs so you can have one. @OakCityKarla and I happened into the Bridge and we took a seat, on the scarf things. One of the promoters noticed and said we could have one the scarf things and asked if we wanted a shirt. @OakCityKarla said, ā€œnah, no thanksā€. :joy:
My girl. :heart:
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Was just grabbing a beer at Crank Arm and the Wrexham team walked by on their way to The Pit for dinner.

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I saw this today when looking to see if the NC House finally passed the sports betting bill. Not sure if anyone else noticed this but the WakeMed soccer park will also be one of the official spots to have on-site sportsbook betting. I feel when they finally connect the Fenton via a road with the WakeMed Soccer park the Sports & Social spot will be packed on NFL Sundays.

Additionally, eight facilities in the state will be able to operate a sportsbook:

  • Bank of America Stadium
  • Spectrum Center
  • Charlotte Motor Speedway
  • Quail Hollow Country Club
  • North Wilkesboro Speedway
  • PNC Arena
  • WakeMed Soccer Park
  • Sedgefield Country Club

NC Senate passes online sports betting bill | North Carolina news | wfmynews2.com

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Did they mean to leave off the Rockingham Speedway?
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Now that itā€™s becoming legal, I can almost guarantee you a makeshift sports book will be put into PNC by the start of the next Hurricanes season. And construction will move fast on a sports book right outside the arena. Dundon (Hurricanes owner) has been anticipating this day for awhile, he lobbied really hard to make this happen, thereā€™s been plans in the making for a sports book that started years ago.

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The law doesnā€™t go into effect until Jan 7 2024 I believe. But yes, a makeshift facility will certainly go in as soon as possible. Just look at the Caesars in Danville.

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Iā€™m happy to just set up a stand and take peopleā€™s money. It doesnā€™t really have to be that fancy.
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I know some states took their sweet time getting things ready (see Massachusetts) but to flush away an entire Panthers and CFB season less Week 18/the CFP Final plus half a Canes season seems to be a bit foolish. It took Kansas and Maryland two weeks or so to launch from approval, why not here?

Guess this means you can place bets onsite next time Monster Jam rolls through PNC :laughing:

@Deekay93 yeah I feel Dundon has been making noise about making the general area a destination. I think this will be a start to have people coming around during the offseason to place bets during something like baseball season. If/when the people milling around have more stuff to do in the area, more money in his pocket.

@mike I remember your post above from about a week ago saying theyā€™re looking at having potentially two sportsbook locations on site. I am curious to see if the Centennial Authority folks will released any updated renders on where the second one would go? I found the presentation from February 2023 and this is where they proposed one of them would go.