Unfortunately, the city will probably drag feet so much on it that Dundon will have plenty of time to find a viable location to move them.
This is literally our only tier 1 pro team so it should be a priority to keep them here while also making our city core more appealing with a new entertainment venue.
Yeah, this is life or death decision for Raleighâs future, this is gonna shows Raleighâs true colors if weâre afraid to take risk of not. We need a stadium downtown and if that doesnât happen, weâre really gonna be a NIMBY town and thatâll show and Iâll make this council more talk then do and Iâll even pull my support of them and Iâll make them look bad. But first we have to put in the work by making sure No NIMBY/or protectionist is elected in November.
This is just my opinion . I believe that Mayor Baldwin & many current council members are Pro- Stadium ,
Pro- Downtown Arena , Pro- Downtown South , & I hope Pro- TIG Tax Help for funding these Projects .
We hope so we hired them, hopefully they do the walkinâ instead of the talkinâ. Or we shall raise hell!!!
Could the Tusla BOK Center fit in downtown Raleigh? Could it fit behind the Convention Center? Just like the PNC Arena it hosts hockey (Tusla Oilers), basketball, and concerts. Seats 19,199-seat which close to to the PNC Arena.
The square block is 213 meters by 213 meters. If we copy and paste the BOK into Raleigh it would fit comfortably at the old Cargill property just a skip away from downtown without displacing anything and right on a possible commuter rail station.
I have measured a 213 by 213 square in the former Cargill property and fit the BOK Center into it. It works well with plenty of space and no need to close streets or anything. The city would just have to buy out some private industrial land but that would be less trouble than private homes.
I donât think thereâs any easy place to put an arena downtown. Possibly if you can convince the US District Court to build a new court building somewhere else and purchase the land and come to an agreement with Marbles Museum and Vintage Church you can tightly fit an arena there but would require closing Person Street or making the road go under.
It would be tight but the actual arena minus the extra amenities should fit in the US District Court property. With clever design you can add amenity space somewhere else. For example, the property currently being zoned for 40 stories could be part of the project and hold a skinny hotel and conference space.
If we cut up the BOK Center to only include the hockey rink and 20,000 seats space it can fit in the Red Hat property as long as one of the roads is blocked but it does seem reasonable.
I like option 2, Lenoir isnât a major street and the convention center could expand southward into the parking deck space if needed.
Further more you squeeze the arena down and the convention center and arena can share an amenity space on the north.
If we canât get the arena right in downtown proper, I donât know that it matters if itâs out by Carter-Finley or not. Also, if it goes in downtown proper, I want a location that doesnât disrupt the street grid. If it spans across blocks, Iâd rather the streets tunnel under the arena than closure of the street.
Charlotte has the street bend around their arena, I would imagine that could be done here to keep the grid intact.
In one direction yes, but Brevard is cut off.
I wouldnât mind Cabarrus being cut off since it dead-ends one block east anyway.
If a road is going to be cut off, I agree that itâs better if that road ends nearby anyway. I just donât want through streets sacrificed for an arena.
Roads and railroads could go under any arena if they elevate it a bit
That does seem to be a good option now that I think about it.
Iâm pro Downtown South, but an arena at this location combined with the NCAE property redevelopment, sites 1&2 and potential Heritage Park reimagining would be a lot better user of City resources. It would build a real southern edge to downtown.
I was watching the Australian Open earlier tonight on ESPN and they showed an interview with Naomi Osaka. She was wearing a NC Courage hat. Pretty cool.
You do realize Downtown South is about the equivalent of walking from Peace Street to Hillsborough Street down Glenwood? It is literally 1.5 miles from Shaw to the approximate location of DTSâŚthe stadium could be closer. People in Manhattan walk this in an evening out.
Peace to Hillsborough via Glenwood is a little over a half mile. I donât know where youâre getting that itâs 1.5 miles, unless Iâm misunderstanding.
Itâs 1.5 miles from Peace/Glenwood >Hillsborough/Glenwood>NC State Bell Tower.
Downtown South is not centrally located. Itâs South. Limits the number of people who would actually walk there. Even if it was built today I would not want to walk there. May take 40 years to infill the area in between to actually make it a desirable walk.
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Doubt it some investment firm will probably just pay the $150 million plus fee and stick a team in Las Vegas or some bs like that.
