Raleigh Union Station and RUSbus Facility / Union West

The proliferation of buildings of nearly or just over 20 stories, even in 40 story zoning districts, pretty clearly illustrates that market conditions are what’s holding the city back from bigger things, not zoning.

I am also of the opinion that there is no need for zoning under 40 stories in the downtown core, but I don’t think there is anything short of ponying up tax $ (which we emphatically should not do) that would get us a new tallest any time soon.

Raleigh is just a 23-story kinda place right now. :man_shrugging:

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And as long as we activate the street levels of those towers and fill the rest with residents and businesses, that’s fine with me.

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We were promised 40 sty high rises

Raleigh: Best I can do is parking deck entrance ramps, blank beige and concrete walls, gigantic empty lobbies that residents don’t need, gigantic/overpriced forever-empty unfinished retail spaces, and loading docks.
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But you weren’t. You were promised a tower up to forty stories. What the developer does with that is up to them. Tall towers are nice to look at, but the real action is on the street level. Let’s not forget that the part of Paris that everyone wants to visit the most looks like this:

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Exactly what everyone’s saying, we need a thousand-foot signature tower to look at and give the city a nice sense of place :wink:

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This is true for all of central Rome and central Munich as well, both beautifully walkable and vibrant towns.

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I have heard that at the time the Eiffel Tower was proposed and built, it was very controversial among Parisians, with lot’s of NIMBY’s calling it an eyesore. I believe the initial plan was for it to be temporary.

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The vast majority of people have a hard time envisioning change of any kind, and they are inherintly risk averse.

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who “promised” us 40 story buildings

Worst part of this completely hypothetical (read: made-up) graphic is that their hypothetical vision for the RUSbus “tower” is almost exactly what we’re actually getting now (except maybe it will end up being a few feet taller than the Dillon vs a few shorter) LMAOOOOOO

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Anyone going to the groundbreaking tomorrow? I’m on the (construction) fence.

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I will try to go see if I can make it

I was going to try and swing by during lunch. Have they announced an official time?

First it’s starts at 10:00am

there it is, on the record interview from hoffman - 23 stories, discusses scaled back nature of project

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/counties/wake-county/article280697015.html

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@23 floors (residential) with the base being taller to accommodate the bus station, this will be visually the same height as Dillon, 301Hillsborough and 400H.

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Dillon, 301 and 400 Hillsborough are all capped at 20 stories. This will be 3 stories taller, plus with the taller base. It will at least appear slightly taller than the Dillon next door, just not by much. Super huge letdown, for sure, though.

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The article also confirms it has been scaled back to only one single residential building. Does anyone have the ASR number so I can view the latest on the city’s website?