Raleigh Union Station and RUSbus Facility / Union West

Glass half full take:
Raleigh is getting a 380 ft tower on the southwestern edge of its downtown. I don’t see that as a loss at all. Frankly, I am even more excited about the activated sidewalk on the west side of West St.
:milk_glass:

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The city, state, and federal government need a refund… and give me 10% for distress.

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The sad thing is that the scope reduction makes perfect sense.

Inflation in the cost of raw materials in the construction industry, labor, and for overall project costs, have spiked by up to 25% in 2022 (as opposed to the ~10% contingency costs that the original budget set aside).

And unlike other, private developer-only projects, this one has a very fixed cost and timeline due to the BUILD grant award’s terms. So the only thing they could do to keep the project’s costs under control is to redesign the building to be smaller :frowning:

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This is starting be disappointing.

Watch it end up being 20 stories

While the reason makes sense, the utter waste of time/money by not looking at the supply chain issues and global inflation concerns makes them look foolish.
Just my armchair observation and opinion :wink:

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They were looking at it hence the changes they are making now. When Wake Co built the Justice Center they had to also make changes before they began the construction phase as costs had gone up. So they scaled back. Then during the 2 years of construction the costs went down and they ended up coming in at over 10 million dollars under budget. Turns out they could have kept the original concept. The point is that there is no crystal ball. Conditions change. Costs change. It is a moving target.

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To clarify my admittedly armchair observation, either they lied, didn’t know what they doing. Or quite possibly just didn’t care enough to better forecast and prepare.
Again, my armchair opinion👍

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How about removing the parking garage to cut costs instead? This is a bus and train station. It’s not like the people who choose to live there won’t have transportation options.

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Excellent point and first post!
Welcome to the DTR community :+1:

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Yall, the only thing that is different is the height of the blank penthouse wall. Here’s the previous submission from August.

And I’m not even sure this is still the current design since didn’t they say they were reworking it?

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As someone involved in large projects, this is totally what happens to project after project after project.
These days though, the projects don’t end under budget when all is said and done.

This is disappointing news. Come back with better news.

Even this opinion would be an insult to armchairs.

Hoffman’s proposal was chosen in November of 2019, under that assumption they should have been able to forecast Covid policies, the supply chain to complete up-end itself, materials to skyrocket, and labor shortages all as a result from Covid policies.

It’s amazing they weren’t able to better forecast and prepare for that.

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This is Raleigh. Everything ends up half-assed and double the budget.

Unfortunately I think this might have been a COVID casualty.

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It hasn’t changed.

before

after

While I’m still gutted about the changed made from the initial proposal to the redesign, the only thing different since the last version is shorter screening for the cooling towers (positive in my book), and slight tweaks to the façade articulation – simplifying the curtain wall of the connector piece so it stands out more, using a cladding change to imply a reveal between parking garage and tower, and refining the curtain wall pattern for the tower. These are all very subtle improvements.

EDIT: woops, I was wrong. Lost two floors as well.

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So it is now sub-380ft tall?

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Looks to be about 383’.

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many years ago the cac’s did have some officers attend meetings on neighborhood safety issues.

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