Raleigh Union Station and RUSbus Facility / Union West

Considering the bus station part is supposed to be built within a certain time frame, they do seem to be busting their butts to get anything done. Do I see loss of funding and several lawsuits in the future?

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They’re waiting so the project is 50% more expensive. That’s the only reasonable conclusion.

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What’s maddening is that if they had stuck with the original approved ASR, they would have all of their permits now and be coming out of the ground.

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Looks like we have a new dog park!

Grass controls run off.

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That would’ve been great if the cost estimates were accurate. But with a fixed budget and timeline, the only way Hoffman/GoTriangle could keep complying with the grant contract to fight back against inflation and cost projection updates is to reduce the scope.

Like… y’all. We could wish this project was going faster or had the bells 'n whistles that we were originally promised. But if you were in their shoes, what else would you even do?

They should pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

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I’m waiting for them to say “We’ve decided to scrap the housing and we’re now just building a new 2 story state of the art bus station.

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Yep. They will build it to support 'future" development

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I have a feeling you proved my point even though you didn’t mean to… people often think “pulling up yourself by your bootstraps” just means you’re doing whatever you gotta do with some elbow grease, but you’re actually being facetious about doing something that is literally impossible.

So… um… yeah. Glad we agree that it’s impossible to have it any other way, lol.

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Oh, I know. I’m just venting. At the rate they’re going though, we’ll be lucky to get the bus station.

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Honestly, the City of Raleigh workforce needs to be purged, the city council can mandate actions but ultimately it’s the city workers that are taking the actions. Has any very large project other than the new Raleigh Union Station been completed in the last 10 years? Nearly none of the key street renovations have been started. No dirt moved on the new city campus, no dirt moved on the BRT New Bern Ave, no dirt moved on the RUSBUS other than demolition and now it looks to have stalled. Dix Park is barely making any changes after a decade of city ownership. DPAC in Durham being the best performance art center in the Triangle is just the cherry on top.

There is something fundamentally broken with the City of Raleigh government that needs to be fixed.

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Which is exactly why them purchasing the DMV lot makes me want to pull my hair out.

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Ehh, seeing how things go in durham, Atlanta, every big city I’d say our municipality actually performs pretty well. There’s simple things that take decades elsewhere.
For comparison, durham is on their 3rd RFP for the police station redevelopment and on their like 3rd decade of just talking and fighting over a rail trail.

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There are many projects in Greater Boston that have taken 20 years to get off the ground. I think the city is doing the best that it can when it comes to getting projects off the ground. The public process often elongates or kills the projects proposed due to community ignorance (including politicians).

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Perhaps this development is made simply made much more difficult and complex due to the relationship between the city, developers, Go Triangle and the federal government…? :thinking: :face_with_monocle:

Yeah this is pretty much it. The Charlotte Transportation Center Project, which is pretty much RUS Bus scaled up (with a few other nuances), is having similar issues with getting out of the ground.

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How long did it take the complete the Big Dig project in Boston? Oh my. And the final cost, too!

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Does it really matter how much it cost?

Yes of course, that could definitely influence the timeline and for the Big Dig, it definitely led to multiple delays