Not sure if this belongs in this thread or another one but, saw on LinkedIn today that ShareFile/Citrix is fully moving this week out of their building next to RUSBUS. I know they (ShareFile) had been trying to sublease previously.
The person posted the company are moving a block away to a new office building…so I’m interpreting that as either The Dillon or 301 Hillsborough.
I keep watching the 330 W Hargett project. It is supposed to be 30 stories. They’ve had four ASR review cycles and they still don’t have approval. It will probably die on the vine at the rate it is going. The city seems to be doing a good job of killing projects.
Two 20+ towers though (Hammel Tower and Capital Square) 
I get that its cute to blame the city, but maybe the developer/design team just aren’t meeting the basic requirements and updates? I know they submitted for a few alternates for the loading dock that the city worked with them on. (There’s still 21 pages of un-resolved comments)
They’ve moved (some people) into multiple floors of 621 Hillsborough.
Good. Maybe someone can redevelop that short building and tall parking deck.
It’s not like this is the only instance of the city dragging their feet though. The City is consistently taking forever to review and deny. I get that they don’t have enough people there by their own estimation but that’s on the city.
The review in the screenshot was completed in 3 weeks. Seems reasonable?
Ahh I hadn’t even considered the Bloc83 office space so that makes sense.
@GucciLittlePig Man that’d make too much sense right?
I’ve been trying to get an encroachment agreement with the city for work. I started in November… formally filed it in March, city council approved in early May, still no final agreement. It is maddening.
Maybe for the first set but not the third. And anyways, when every project drags out, people are going to blame the common denominator. I’m sure some developers are stupid/unorganized/aggressive in a way that requires endless review, but Im skeptical that almost all of them are.
Then there’s the City Municipal Building which has been undergoing ASR review since October 2021 and there’s no developer there to blame.
I don’t fully blame the city. I also blame the civil engineering firm who repeatedly resubmits without resolving all of the issues first. I don’t know if it is pressure form the developer to keep resubmitting the plans, but it just bogs down an already bogged down system even more. They should have been able to get approval by now.
Where I blame the city is in the fact that they have an overly bureaucratic system that is extremely short staffed. Based on the level that the city wants the ASR drawings to be, you should be able to get site permits. But no, you have to make another set of review cycles for the site permits with practically the same set of drawings. And, of course, many new corrections and reviewed by the same people.
Best Mandalorian voice:
“This is the Way.”
The project that has been notoriously overbudget and might chop off 3 floors to save money? ASR 96-21 is approved as of last week. Looks like the design team regularly waited like 6 months per submission. Only once did the city go past their deadline.
Look, i’m not saying the city is super efficient or whatever, just don’t understand these broad generalizations blaming the reviews for everything. If yall look at their comments, its stuff that a lot of people on this site complain about. They are literally working for our best interests.
That’s the 2 Hillsborough building.
My main man Vatnos, please tell me your joking?
I am. But also, it’s a very real observation with a trend I have extrapolated. Raleigh has gotten a steady trickle of infill projects over the years but the only 300+ ft building to land in downtown was PNC, back in 2008.
Part of this is due to the 2008 crash and part of this is due to McFarlane’s council setting a 20 floor limit in the UDO. projects often take several years to materialize so despite the many dx40 rezonings we’ve seen only things that got started under the previous paradigm have materialized.
I’ve just seen this play out too many times. A developer proposes a signature tower to swindle the city into allowing them to demolish a historic structure–something they might not have agreed to had the proposal been more modest. Then… the block sits empty for years and decades. Then the project gets transferred to another developer and scaled down (Edison, Reynolds), or canceled completely (First Citizens). My spidey senses started tingling about this one when 1 - the project got scaled down, 2 - they demolished the whole lot basically, aside from a corner. Really thought there’d be more fronting left than that.
My personal feeling about all future proposals is to be cautiously skeptical, unless it’s Kane basically.
300+ Floors? Where’s dat?
Sir, you are speaking my language lol 
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It’s about time we built OMEGA TOWER 9000 here in Raleigh.
