Odd how Livable Raleigh is always against new housing projects, except for SFHs. Making Raleigh less livable for many people.
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It was a hyperbole of a statement that I almost could see LR/NIMBYs making.. âthatâs a thriving unhoused community, you canât build luxury apartments there!â
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People in Raleigh would freak out in a shadow of a 30-40 story tower like these in Houston cast a shadow of their homes. Check out the SF homes in the shadow
https://www.fouroaksplace.com/
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I think in Houston a shadow over your home would be a feature, not a bug. Lol
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I grew up in Four Oaks (NC)
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So do we expect this park to actually start? Do we think the grant is in danger?
I wouldnât make any bets one way of the other.
I think the is should be a semi priority and I think the city could and should plug a hole from that grant. So it would be unfortunate to see this not happen.
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Oh, I have no doubt it will happen. I just donât think we should presume we know whether or not the Federal funds will actually land in our laps.
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Dug into to this a little and itâs even stupider than I thought. The âneighborhoodâ shown in these images is the cluster of streets wedged between the railroad tracks and Glenwood Ave. These are mostly multi-unit apartments and rental properties. Even at the maximal extent of winter solstice, the proposed buildingâs shadow just barely reaches Glenwood. So itâs disingenuous â at best â for whoeverâs behind this campaign to claim their neighborhood is about to be cast into darkness.
*Obviously renters have rights too and people actually living in this area may have their own reasons for opposing the project. But being pinned up against the tracks without through-streets comes with its own set of problems â I doubt the possibility of losing out on sunlight a few days a year is high on the list.
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I encourage you to share this information at their next event 
There are a lot of reasons why I agree with you in concept, including the fact that the neighborhood thatâs fighting the rezoning is literally immediately against downtown proper, on a railroad track, and next to warehouse type buildings with a variety of mixed uses, but I donât agree that the neighborhood is mostly multi-unit residential. Yes, there are some multifamily units in the neighborhood or adjacent to it like the Governorâs Pointe townhouses that were built as infill 25 years ago, and yes there are houses that have been subdivided into multiple units, but the majority of the neighborhood area is single family houses that have been restored one by one. In the nearly 30 years that Iâve been in this greater neighborhood, these homes have been on an upscale trajectory as their value as a walkable single family home has only increased.
I wholeheartedly object to their outsized influence on what happens in downtown proper, and this is especially true since downtown proper is but 1.18 square miles in total. They and other downtown adjacent SFH neighborhoods have (thus far) effectively carved into our tiny downtown proper to create buffers for them. Thatâs right, the proven revenue engine for the city is being curtailed/limited by folks mostly living in low density, low tax revenue, single family homes on downtownâs immediate edges mostly over shadow (non) issues that are pitched as if the Sun stays low on the horizon all day, 365 days a year.
Hereâs a downtown proper reference map for anyone whoâs not familiar with the boundary.
I think that the area within the dashed black line represents the 1.18 square miles. Maybe someone with more specific information can confirm that for the community?
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Yeah, that black dashed line wraps an area of about 1.18 miles.
Itâs not just Raleigh.
sighâŚ
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âI want [Raleigh] to be a jewel of the South,â he said. âI want more people to move in. I want housing prices to come down. I want affordable housing. It just doesnât have to happen at the expense of all of our neighborhoods that have helped make Raleigh great for so long.â
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/counties/wake-county/article302841584.html
âat the expense ofâ 
Iâm sorry but this is elitist thinking right here when you say âwe make Raleigh greatâ and that housing solutions come âat the expense ofâ them. Poor babies.
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The man behind the scaled drawing himself.
So this guy wants the following:
- Raleigh to be the jewel of the South
- more people to move in
- housing prices to come down
- affordable housing
- but donât put it by me!
It blows my mind that just seeing a buliding downtown can somehow ruin their neighborhood.
What exactly is his vision for Raleigh to be the jewel of the South as it grows? Does he just want neverending sprawl?
Does he just want growth to go elsewhere? (classic NIMBYism)
Does he just want nominal density increases that donât create walkable urbanism while they add more car miles to our streets?
IMO, the mistake Raleigh made in the past was capitulating to edge SFH neighborhoods by carving buffers into our tiny downtown proper area that only serve them. If Raleigh had even twice the area in its downtown, then maybe Iâd be more generous to these edge neighborhoods, but we donât have that luxury. We have a very small area to work with to maximize revenue generation for the city.
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I have an idea. Since the properties along West St. that border his neighborhood are zoned IX-3, letâs just build 3 story industrial along that entire stretch. That would provide a significant âwallâ close to his house that, by view angle, will prevent him from seeing a nice residential tower further in the distance. 
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the ugly truth is that literally everything he said prior to ââŚbutâ is all just political grandstanding when we all know damn well he couldnât care less about Raleighâs growth nor anybody else that lives here or wants to live here, and only about his property - and his property only (which will be FINE no matter what lol)
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